However, if you are just looking to run an app in the background like a service, you do not need to make it a gui (probably not the most efficient solution). In that case, check out Win32::Daemon
-Pete -----Original Message----- From: Peter Eisengrein Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 8:02 AM To: 'Chris'; perl-win32-gui-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [perl-win32-gui-users] Child Windows. When you create the child window, add this arg: -parent => $Window, Yes, you can hide the parent and leave the child showing... -Pete -----Original Message----- From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 5:10 PM To: perl-win32-gui-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [perl-win32-gui-users] Child Windows. Okay, I'm working on an application, but I need to use a child window from what I was reading, so that I don't have anything showing up in the taskbar, when my app runs. I only want the window to be visible at times, and the tray icon nothing else. I was told I need to use a parent windows and then I could hide that and have the child window howing, and it should do what I'm looking for, if anyone could help, I would very much appreciate it.