> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Moss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 26 October 2000 16:01
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: John Giordano, Ron Riley, etc. (ASCII PLS!)
> 
> 
> Everyone,
> 
> I'm curious to other people's viewpoints regarding the html 
> email's issue.

My viewpoint: Let's have a ban on html postings.

> Taking on board Joe & Soren's comment's about posting in 
> html, It's not
> always possible to be responsible for your content type. 

My viewpoint: Lets have a ban on those people without control over their
email client <g>.

> Just 
> recently I've
> been involved in some research of new products and one of 
> these was some
> mail 'tagging' software. This would automatically convert 
> your plain text
> email to html and add a nice little graphic to it.
> When sending from a client like outlook you could happily 
> stop this from
> happenning to mails posted to this newsgroup (using rules withing the
> tagging software), However I know of a few webcafe's who have 
> bought into
> this software as this allows them to brand emails sent from 
> their cafes (by
> customoers using yahoo, excite, hotmail etc....) with their 
> tag!! And the
> user would be unaware of this!!

Well that's plain bad luck - but those people have a choice too and, BTW,
aren't the "offenders" we are discussing.

> The arguments that we have had in the office about whether 
> this is a good
> idea or not, i.e. sending html emails, have come to the 
> conclusion that not
> sending html purely because some people have systems which 
> can't handle it
> would be a bad thing.

That's not what its about.

> It would be like not writing a computer game which uses the 
> speed and power
> of a pentium III processor, just because a smaller number of 
> users still
> have 486's! (And I'm one of 'em!).

No, that would be a bad analogy.

> I agree that there is no real need to send html as all our 
> dicussions here
> are pretty much text based, 

The discussions here are TOTALLY text-based.

> ...however surely the onus is on the 
> minority, NOT
> the majority, to change what they do. Here I mean the 
> majority being those
> who can send and receieve html email ok. 

I *can* receive any old crap - I just don't want to.

> The world is moving 
> forward 

In some ways (and moving backward in others).

>...and
> Being a list about a language which is very much a part of 
> that movement, I
> think it would be a losing battle to try to keep people from 
> using that new
> technology,

Hold on - you just changed technologies - I wouldn't try to stop people
using Perl in here - I would try to stop them using html mail though.

> and after all hasn't html based email been around 
> for quite a
> while now?

Yes, and it was a bad idea then too.

> 
> Regards
> 
> Marty

No worries.

If the list is going to have a posting policy (as many usenet groups do)
then I would vote for a ban on HTML mail (and all of the underhand exploits
and junk that go with it).

Michael Erskine (MSEmtd)
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