Dean --
I think someone is spoofing some old posts.
I was trying to figure out where they are coming from.
The other post had my name, but posted way back.
Anyone know ???
Re: your post, though
I have confidence and faith in all the open source fanatics out there.
In twenty years, It will likely be some flavor of open source something.
It's people like us that are steering the ship.
When I started pushing windoze 15 years I was bashed by the DECheads.
Well, they got PC'd. Just like DEC zapped BigBlue.
Now corporate USA is doing windoze, the are always, always, laggards.
We put in a 100 node Beowulf cluster last year, adios Cray and SGI.
Running a Raidzone ATA raid, check that one out, streaming data at
100+MBytes/sec.
Power, OpenSource, NUMA bus is about to hit Linux clusters ....
It will be a awesome ride, hold on. I'm gonna get me one. 8-))
clp
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Dean Theophilou
> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 9:29 PM
> To: Perl Users List
> Subject: RE: An Index of Incivility in the Perl Community [Xpost]
>
>
> Very funny. Although it won't be for another 20-50 years,
> the UNIX OS will
> cease to exist as a widely-used OS. This is not a bash
> against UNIX; it IS
> a high-quality OS. However, the elitism I have found among
> UNIX people is
> tremendous! Such elitism is one of the biggest (if not THE
> biggest) reason
> that Apple got screwed, and it is exactly for the same reason
> that UNIX will
> be screwed too.
>
> For all of it's problems, Windows has a great look and feel;
> I can't tell
> you how many times I've heard UNIX people whine about how
> much better a
> command-line-based OS is. But the fact of the matter is that
> command-lines
> have their time and place, and it is NOT all the time and any place.
> Frequently, using a GUI is a better and more efficient approach.
>
> Nevertheless, there is one thing that I think nobody will
> disagree with: the
> Windows OSs have made computers accessible to just about
> everyone...from a 5
> year old to a 60+ year old...and the proliferation of computers in our
> society has made my job all that much more in demand (and
> profitable). So I
> thank MS (or M$, if you prefer) and am very appreciative, in spite of
> whether or not it is a "real" OS.
>
>
> Dean Theophilou
> Genisar
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Mark Folse
> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 6:44 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: An Index of Incivility in the Perl Community [Xpost]
>
>
> What? You don't have a Real Operating System? That's your problem! ; )
>
> > my only
> > wish is that perlmonks was a bit more friendly to those of us in the
> > corporate
> > world who have no choice but to use WinTel and not Linux.
> >
> > John
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris Pettit [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 9:18 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: An Index of Incivility in the Perl Community [Xpost]
> >
> >
> > Greetings --
> > Good research.
> > In a similar thread I suggested that the Perl group have a list
> > modeled
> > after the Python[Tutor] list.
> > They are remarkably kind to folks, and certainly, many folks are too
> > lazy to
> > look things up before posting.
> >
> > Folks like Matt on XML and DaveR on Win32 have done some remarkable
> > efforts
> > to organize informational web sites. It seems a shame that with all
> > the raw
> > talent out there that a
> > site with the structure of a SourceForge could not be put
> together to
> > channel the learning effort for P(erl||ython),TCL, etc.
> >
> > ActiveState,CPAN, & Perldoc are certainly deserving of credit. They
> > have
> > done a great deal to provide resources for the scripting community.
> >
> > I think the energies of the folks out there producing modules,
> > bindings and
> > languages are better served building code, not maintaining web sites
> > and
> > answering similar questions so often. I sent a note to
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > once and Guido himself responded. Another thing, it is incredible
> > how kind
> > and seemingly humble some of these mega-giants-of-programming can be
> > to mere
> > lame mortals like myself.
> >
> > It would benefit all if a site structured like SourceForge, for lack
> > of
> > something better call it something like InfoForge or Opendox was to
> > organize
> > printable/searchable Faqs to answer these types of questions.
> > The Perl documentation can be challenging to find things.
> > ( no flashing banner ads/gifs allowed )
> >
> > I know a LOT of experienced programers that are intimidated by Perl.
> > [4real]
> > There is a lot of syntax things that seem to occur by magic like <>
> > @_.
> > I pulled out a Perl book, $_ was covered on p.363-364.
> >
> > The Perl gang reminds me of name that tune...
> > H*ll, I can write that code in three lines....
> > the seive of Erathosenes in ONE line, give me a break, i saw that
> > one.
> > from the command line no-less. I love this stuff.
> >
> > Perhaps a Perl[Assist] group to organize it. How many times
> > have people written to dbi-users on installing DBD::Oracle ???
> > And they don't even have the Oracle client installed.
> >
> > Maybe, it's just circumstance, but it seems that interest in Perl is
> > increasing.
> > In the bookstores i've seen alot of people picking up Perl books
> > lately.
> > Twice in the last week I've suggested the Perl-DBI book.
> >
> > Often, when i can take the time to reply to posts, I will
> try to find
> > a link
> > and send it to people. Folks that tell/hint at others to RTFM might
> > be just
> > as lazy as the person doing the posting !!!
> > So, if we had a place to tell them where to go ;-0 , meaning a real
> > link, it
> > would help.
> > An organized effort would help eliminate the inumerable
> dead links to
> > info
> > out there.
> > As I stated earlier, a SourceForge like site would be helpful.
> > Like:
> > [FAQ] [PerlDoc] [Cookbook] [SampleCode] [Hints] [Links] [Books]
> > [Whitepapers]
> >
> > And, have volunteers run each module or topic.
> > If someone drops the ball others will likely volunteer to
> pick it up.
> > Like wise if someone does a poor job, control could be
> transferred if
> > complaints are sufficient.
> >
> > What if it would even lead to a real certification !!!!
> >
> > And, if i was smarter, i could even help.
> > And, yes, i probably do need to have my medication adjusted.
> >
> > clp
> >
> > >
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