There's been a lot of discussion lately on -meta which implies that the RFC/brainstorming process has gotten out of control. I personally think that it's going exactly as it should, and I've seen little to worry about, which is why I've been fairly hands-off apart from trying to get some process-related things sorted out. With regard to the "what's going on on -language" (supposedly) weekly report, I find this very difficult to do, because there really is an awful lot going on. So, I guess my report is: Discussion proceedeth apace. Many RFCs. Most RFCs are redrafting towards being either frozen or withdrawn. The sublists seem to be chugging along adequately. No particularly vitriolic flamewars have erupted. Traffic is more or less manageable, at about 50 posts a day on the main -language list and less on each sublist. However, the September 30 deadline is approaching, and I'm going to start trying to move towards wrap-up. This means chasing down RFCs which haven't been resubmitted lately, and helping others move towards "Frozen" or "Withdrawn". Nathan Wiger has raised some issues regarding conflicting RFCs on similar topics (eg subroutine prototypes) which, ideally, should be redrafted so that one is "Frozen" in a state which represents the WG (or the sub-group) consensus, and the others are "Withdrawn". It will be interesting to see if this can be achieved. K. -- Kirrily Robert -- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- http://netizen.com.au/ Open Source development, consulting and solutions Level 10, 500 Collins St, Melbourne VIC 3000 Phone: +61 3 9614 0949 Fax: +61 3 9614 0948 Mobile: +61 410 664 994