Simon and Dan have been teasing you, I know. I'm holding them back from releasing what they have until: 1) We have a CVS server running. (Ask has done this and is now working on anonymous access). 2) We have a bugtracking system. (We're currently thinking of Bugzilla). 3) We have a build tracking system. I believe Ask is working on Tinderbox. 4) We have some "bugs" to put into the bugtracking system. That is, some initial projects that people can hack on. Simon's been coming up with a good To Do list that we'll seed the bugtracking system with. I want to avoid the situation where we announce code and then chaos erupts. If there's going to be lots of frenzied hacking, I want to make sure it is appropriately focused. Think of this as the lesson I've learned from bootstrap (and from watching how Mono started up). There'll be a CVS server for those who want bleeding edge source. We'll put daily build snapshots onto an FTP/http server, and any time we have a particularly stable/featureful build, that'll go onto CPAN. Let me know if I've forgotten anything. If all goes well, we should see the first source release towards the end of this week. Fingers crossed! Nat