I've sent this version to the RFC librarian, but it hasn't shown up yet. Until it does, it's available at: Formatted: http://www.avrasoft.com/perl/rfc/rfc88v2.htm POD as text: http://www.avrasoft.com/perl/rfc/rfc88v2.txt This doesn't include Peter's latest changes yet, none of which are show-stoppers. I'll get to their details asap. I've sent this copy in its current state because the widening interest in our little discussion in -erros means people are referring to v1 of 88 in the RFC index, and v2 has major changes relative to that. Yours, &c, Tony Olekshy