On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Angel Faus wrote: : Could we please, please, please have bitwise operators be out of the : core. We expect that they are not going to be used by the average : user, so it looks fair to apply the ultimate negative huffman : enconding: they need to be specially required. : : A simple "use bitwise" would be ok. That would provide a proper : manpage to explain the meta-operators thing, and would shorten the : main list, which is something that we desperatelly need.
Fine by me. Could force people to declare hyper and super, for all that... : On other order of things: if it is about providing context to an : operation, wouldn't an adverb be more natural? : : So it would be something like this: : : $c = $a | $b; # superposition : $c = $a | $b : int; # integer bitwise : $c = $a | $b : str; # char bitwise : $c = $a | $b : bool; # bool bitwise Has the "long term" problem, not to be confused with the long-term problem... Also has the "oh by the way" problem we're trying to get away from with regex modifiers. : This can be expanded to other context-requiring cases: : : $c = $a / $b; # float division : $c = $a / $b : int; # integer division : : Admitedly, it's more verbose. But again this is Huffman encoding at : use. As long as we're admitting things, I'll admit that $c = $a +/ $b; # integer division looks pretty weird too. But in this case, the historical $c = int($a / $b); # integer division at least ends up with the right semantics (by accident). : Or, speaking aloud, we could move the adverb just along the operator, : tying them together visually: : : $c = $a |:int $b; : $c = $a &:str $b; : : But honestly, that looks weird. And is essentially the same thing as $c = $a +| $b; $c = $a ~& $b; only with the context on the other end. Larry