Hello world, I never posted here and never contributed to perl6 in any way but i would like to share my mind about it ...
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 01:34:44PM +1100, Timothy S. Nelson wrote: > On Sat, 13 Dec 2008, howard chen wrote: > What I think is more likely to happen in reality is that people will > make various Perl6 "distros", ie. the Perl6 core + whatever modules are > suitable to the purpose. So we could have, for example: ... and confuse the users by adding more names in the perl6 world. There is allready too much words about perl6. Please concider that a newbie will hear words like PGE,perl6,rakudo,pugs,parrot,PIR,PASM ... The next point, for me, is that distributions and bundles are just useless: there are a lot of modules that comes with de standard distribution i never used and i imagine that no sysop can imagine what are *my* needs as netop: - do i need to generate pdf reports to my boss? - does my servers deal with apple or windows world? - what kind of applications are running on my servers? depending to the answers, a lot of modules that would be very important for one sysop will be useless for me. when i compare my expects to my observations of others computers users, i thinks that the best way to distribute perl6 and make it popular is to provide a minimal installation with a powerfull tool to discover and install perl6 modules (as dpkg/aptitude/synaptic does). searching by tags, description, names, using cpan as we use google ... > Diamonds: Perl6 for the web distro (Web people make mony, buy diamonds) > Clubs: Perl6 for systems administrators (club users, before they club you) > Spades: Perl6 for gravediggers (??? :) ) > > Naturally, the "Diamonds" mentioned above would include a particular > templating system, some XML support, modules for various useful > protocols, and the like. > - my sysop tasks requires template systems, do i have to install diamonds? (i think that you think about install Clubs and adding templating modules but this is confusing for new people) - my minimal set for Diamonds contains LMTP,IPP,XMPP,... but a lot of web developpers don't deal with them .. so what to choose ? > I guess I can see the value in many of the existing templating systems, > but would like to see a single one designed in a "postmodern" fashion > that can accomodate the supporters of all existing templating systems. this could be called Utopia! regards marc