If this pull request is merged: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/pull/4620
you will get a deprecation notice at the end of your program of the locations in your code that need changing. Liz > On 5 Nov 2021, at 19:54, Joseph Brenner <doom...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Yes, this feels like natural Raku code to a lot of us: > > given any( $o1, $o2 ) { when <pattern> { ... } } > > If there's some rule like, "don't use junctions > on the left hand side of a smartmatch" that > hasn't been made clear, and there's certainly no > roast tests that check this, so consequently the > behavior has drifted around. > > The latest word from Jonathan Worthington seems > to be that the current behavior should probably > be reverted *for now*, but a later language > version of Raku will change it again, albeit more > consistently. > > So if you were serious about writing Raku code > (and not just playing around with it, as I mostly am) > you'd need to have a list in mind of these things > that are kinda-sorta-deprecated. Otherwise, you'd > just have to expect breakage on upgrade in the future. > > > On 11/4/21, yary <not....@gmail.com> wrote: >> and I realize that what I just typed doesn't help a whole lot, what if you >> have a junction of things and you want to tell if any/one/all/none >> smartmatch the same thing... OK.. >> >> -y >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 6:38 PM yary <not....@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Something that helps me reason about this is thinking of how regular >>> expressions match against strings, to remember that which goes on which >>> side is important... >>> >>>> "this has a Q in it" ~~ / 'Q' / # of course this works >>> >>> 「Q」 >>> >>>> / 'Q' / ~~ "this has a Q in it" # of course this breaks >>> >>> Regex object coerced to string ... >>> >>> >>>> say do given "this has a Q in it" { when / 'Q' / {"has a Q"}; default >>> {"no match"}} >>> >>> has a Q >>> >>>> say do given / 'Q' / { when "this has a Q in it" {"has a Q"}; default >>> {"no match"}} >>> >>> Regex object coerced to string ... >>> >>> I did have a place in the earlier discussion. I eventually realized that >>> if I thought of junctions as analogous to regular expressions, then it >>> was >>> easier to remember which side of the smartmatch or given/when to put it. >>> >>> -y >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 3:31 PM Joseph Brenner <doom...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>> ... we'd need to go >>>>> through detailed, calm, measured discussion if we're to minimize >>>>> the pain it seems we'll inevitably endure pain to dig ourselves out >>>>> of the hole we'd be in. >>>> >>>> Yes, this could be a bad one. >>>> >>> >>