P Kishor wrote:
> 
> Matthew Kenworthy wrote:
>
> > I've compiled PDL 2.4.6 with PGPLOT built in. I've sent to Chris 
> > Marshall and it should appear in the next day or so, but if you are 
> > (brave!) enough to try it, grab a copy at:
> >
> > http://www.strw.leidenuniv.nl/~kenworthy/bin/SciKarlv2.4.6.dmg
> >
> > I'm also grinding through the PLplot problem you're having. If I 
> > managed to get it built on my Mac and pulled into SciKarl, would that 
> > solve your problem?

I've downloaded the package.  Should have it up on
the sourceforge site by tomorrow.  Was there a README.txt
that you wanted to go with the file, Matt?

> <snip>
>
> 1. If I can build it then I will understand it
> better, and unlike other prepackaged programs, I
> do have to understand PDL well in order to use it
> well.

You'll definitely learn how to build it.

> 2. If I can build it, then it means that building
> it is easy enough for other newbies to be able to
> build it as well.

The most important thing here is to figure out
what the build problems are and get them fixed
in the various project components.

> In my view, that will push PDL that one small
> step closer to being more usable by most normal
> scientists and not just programmer scientists.

It will make PDL more accessible to folks looking
to contribute to PDL development.  My experience is
that 1-click (or less) PDL access is important to
getting folks to use PDL.  If they have to become
a C programmer, perl programmer, and system admin
to get PDL installed, they won't have much time
or desire to try PDL for their science/research/work...

> I have another, less scientific and less
> generous reason for PDL to succeed in general
> usage -- I am fairly sick of the bright-eyed
> users of Numpy and Scipy here on campus who talk
> excitedly about the wonderful things they can
> do with Python. I want to evangelize PDL use,
> particularly for remote sensing/GIS/image analysis
> kind of work (essentially replace IDL without
> having to use Scipy/Numpy).

I would like to have a core PDL working on all
the supported platforms: windows, mac os x, and
unix/linux.  Right now, mac os x and windows are
only partially covered with the basic PDL
functionality.  mac os x is a bit easier to fix
since many of the external libraries that cause
portability issues *are* available there.

Windows, on the other hand, will require us to
implement a bundled package since there is not
package manager for win32 software.

--Chris
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