On 1/23/2012 5:33 PM, Joel Berger wrote:
Ok so Text::AsciiTeX has been released to CPAN, see my announcement
here 
http://blogs.perl.org/users/joel_berger/2012/01/announcing-textasciitex.html

Very cool!  This is just what is needed to make the
Pod flavor of the PDL book and documentation work.

Thanks, Joel.

--Chris

I still need to find a way to hook it into text-based POD renderers so
that it can actually be of use here.

Yes, the simpler and more transparent to use---the better.

Additionally, I don't know if anyone else has a blogs.perl.org blog or
a blog which is aggregated to perlsphere.net? Since I do, I would be
honored to post an announcement for PDL 2.4.10 when it happens.
Further, with a note to Gabor Szabo we can surely get a high billing
in the Perl Weekly that he publishes (I have myself been mentioned a
couple of times for far lesser items).

Anyway let me know,

Cheers,
Joel

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Joel Berger<[email protected]>  wrote:
In response to some of this, I am working on a Perl port of the
AsciiTeX program. Its almost complete, see more at
https://github.com/jberger/Text-AsciiTeX .

Once I get that going then I will have to figure out how to hook into
a POD renderer. With this facility text based POD readers can see the
formulae too!

For POD to LaTeX there seems to be plenty of converter engines, then
from there its an easy render to PDF.

Cheers,
Joel

P.S. I will probably make an announcement on blogs.perl.org once its
ready (mirrored on perlsphere.net).

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 6:31 AM, chm<[email protected]>  wrote:
On 1/23/2012 5:12 AM, Matthew Kenworthy wrote:

(1) we need to have a pod-only option for
the various figures---I'm thinking
ascii art versions with some text


I was thinking of using png2ascii or some such variation, because hand

drawing text figures is painful - something to experiment for
2.4.11....


If you look at the pure pod version, we at least
need to have a box with words in it to fill the
same space.



(2) we need a way to have TeX/LaTeX/...
equations and symbols in the documents
at least for the HTML and PDF versions.



We shouldn't have to use TeX equations to explain PDL. It's no problem

to add the tex in the POD, but it really shouldn't be an *essential*
part of the Book.


It is very difficult to do a text about computation
and science/engineering while avoiding the language
of science---mathematics.  It is _essential_ to provide
at some point: options include standardize to LaTeX
equations and generate images to include them, there
is a math-html for web browsers that could be used,
...


I tried to update the make_book.pl script
but when it ran it dies on my cygwin
system because of an out of memory failure.
Is there a way to generate the PDF files
in a less intensive fashion?  Maybe by
chapter and then combine?


Holy crow! It runs with no problem on Mac Lion, so I'm not sure what
the cause may be for you. But I'm happy to switch to something else
for PDF generation.


Nothing holy, just memory limitations of cygwin.
I just reported the problem as it would be an
issue on machines with smaller memory---like the
256MB laptop I have across the room...


The only hangup with making individual PDFs is the final merge, which
adds another dependency and also loses the page numbering.


This sort of thing is why we'll eventually want more
control of the PDF conversion process with our own
code.

--Chris


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