Yes, apparently I am having trouble reading today!  I saw "Principal 
Coordinates Analysis" on the MDS wikipedia page, and my brain interpreted it as 
"Principal Components Analysis", and I went in the completely wrong direction.  
Sorry about that.

Derek

On Jan 31, 2013, at 2:36 PM, Jean Véronis wrote:

> Thanks for taking the time! In the meanwhile I checked PDL::Transform and 
> arrived at the same conclusion…
> 
> I know Maggies's module -- PDL::Stats::Kmeans is the step in my chain 
> (clustering on the reduced matrix). However PCA is not the same a PCoA… If 
> don't think that exists under PDL or more generally for perl. I have a little 
> hope with R, since Rserve can quite speed up things 
> (http://www.rforge.net/Rserve/), and someone just started a pelr lint 
> (http://search.cpan.org/~djunkim/Statistics-RserveClient-0.01/lib/Statistics/RserveClient.pm).
>  We'll see…
> 
> 
> Le 31 janv. 2013 à 22:27, Derek Lamb <[email protected]> a écrit :
> 
>> OK, with this information I can tell you that PDL::Transform is probably not 
>> what you want--that does coordinate transforms (I was interpreting your 
>> question as in, "can I scale things (images, coordinates, etc) in multiple 
>> dimensions").  Thank you for the MDS wikipedia link.
>> 
>> PCA might be a better search term.  Look at Maggie's PDL::Stats module, 
>> which contains PDL::Stats::GLM.  That includes some PCA routines.
>> 
>> I don't know that GSL does PCA explicitly, but it should handle the 
>> eigenvalue or SVD portions of PCA just fine.  There are some PDL::GSL:: 
>> modules but I don't think they include the eigen calculations.
>> 
>> PDL::Slatec has the 'eigsys' function which may also be helpful.
>> 
>> PDL::MatrixOps has the eigens.  These last two I found by doing 
>> 
>> $pdldoc -a eigen
>> 
>> from the command line after PDL was installed.
>> 
>> There is a general R/Splus <--> Perl package here: 
>> http://www.omegahat.org/RSPerl/ but it has not been updated in many years, 
>> and I have never used it.
>> 
>> best,
>> Derek
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 31, 2013, at 1:52 PM, Jean Véronis wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks Derek, I am going to check PDL::Transform right away.
>>> 
>>> My need is to reduce dimensionality on large distance matrices. For this is 
>>> use multidimensional scaling  
>>> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multidimensional_scaling) by calling R from 
>>> perl (cmdscale function : 
>>> http://stat.ethz.ch/R-manual/R-patched/library/stats/html/cmdscale.html).
>>> 
>>> It's perfectly fine, expect in terms of performance, since at the moment I 
>>> didn't find any better way than use Statistics:R, which basically passes 
>>> data through stdin/stdout. When it comes to huge matrices, it is extremely 
>>> inefficient. Hence my question.
>>> 
>>> I tried to google "pdl multidimensional scaling", "gsl multidimensional 
>>> scaling", "perl multidimensional scaling", and all possible variants 
>>> involving "pcinipal coordinates analysis", "PCoA", with no success.
>>> 
>>> Many thanks, again.
>>> --j
>>> 
>>> Le 31 janv. 2013 à 21:41, Derek Lamb <[email protected]> a écrit :
>>> 
>>>> Hi Jean,
>>>> 
>>>> The best hint I can provide based on the extremely limited information you 
>>>> have given is PDL::Transform.
>>>> 
>>>> You might get a better response if you describe what you are trying to do 
>>>> in more than one sentence, what you have tried, whether you are new to PDL 
>>>> or Perl or are already using one or both, and what documentation you have 
>>>> looked at.
>>>> 
>>>> best,
>>>> Derek
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 31, 2013, at 1:24 PM, Jean Véronis wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am looking for a multidimensional scaling package.
>>>>> Any hint would be appreciated.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Many thanks
>>>>> --j
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 

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