Hi Karl: I still maintain that PLplot is a good, modern
plotting package that runs on all required platforms. It is well
maintained and has a nice build system. It also has interactive
capabilities which I don't know much about.
I have not supported Windows and Mac with PDL::Graphics::PLplot because I
don't have the time and access to required machines.
I think others who have time/machines could do this without much effort.
I think PLplot could be brought up to speed with minor enhancements to
PDL::Graphics::PLplot, which I don't necessarily have time to do.
Regards,
Doug
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Software Engineer
UCAR - COSMIC, Tel. (303) 497-2611
On Tue, 5 Mar 2013, Karl Glazebrook wrote:
If GNUplot can plot a million points or a 4096^2 image with a delay < 1s and no
memory disaster then that would be fast enough for me.
I wish there was a better solution
Karl
On 04/03/2013, at 2:04 AM, Henning Glawe wrote:
On Sun, Mar 03, 2013 at 10:04:45PM +1100, Karl Glazebrook wrote:
I don't know how 'modern' PLplot is. The documentation still talks about
Tektronix terminals!
I did some googling, DISLIN seemed the closest but is only semi-frree.
In astronomy people really only use pgplot at the c/f77 level. (At a higher
level they use language specific graphics, e.g. IDL, IRAF, Python, sm (!),
gnuplot, MMA).
What about other scientific fields? What do people you know use?
In my field (computational quantum physics/chemistry), computation and
visualization are usually treated separately. Typically, the actual
numerical simulations are very heavy (taking CPU-days or even CPU-weeks on
current HPC-Clusters).
The visualization is performed in a separate step, where different "classes"
of tools are employed:
* Special purpuse tools for molecule/crystal visualization, which show:
- crystal structures
- densities either on cutting planes or as equipotential surfaces
Tools belonging to this class are:
- xcrysden http://www.xcrysden.org/
- v-sim http://www-drfmc.cea.fr/L_Sim/V_Sim/index.en.html
* General-purpose plotting tools with a focus on 2D-visualization:
- gnuplot http://gnuplot.sourceforge.net/
- grace http://plasma-gate.weizmann.ac.il/Grace/
* General-purpose plotting tools with more focus on 3D-visualization:
- OpenDX http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_OpenDX
(Official website seems to be down)
Learning curve is quite steep, interface is a bit awkward to use (for
modern standards)
- paraview http://www.paraview.org/
Easier to use than OpenDX; very powerful visualization tool, integrated
python scripting support for
- sources (data generation)
- filters (data processing)
- general-purpose macros
Looks dismal. Perhaps the moral is people who put significant effort in to
visuals tend to go commercial?
I don't think so. You can get quite good results out of free
visualization tools, altough sometimes you may have to tweak the settings a
bit. One very good example for this is gnuplot; the default settings have not
changed much in the past 20 years (think backwards compatibility), but with
some modifications in your gnuplot scripts, plots may look a lot more
attractive. This is one of the websites showing how to do this:
http://www.gnuplotting.org
For paraview, there are some good examples in the image gallery:
http://www.paraview.org/paraview/project/imagegallery.php
Maybe we have to go back to the question what _kind_ of visualization support
we need to have available directly within PDL.
In my opinion, a very simple plotting interface used mainly for
debugging/development is enough.
For anything beyond this, there are really good plotting tools available also
as free software, we just need to be able to export data in a format readable
by them.
--
c u
henning
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