Hi,
I was making a 12.10 "feasibilty evaluation in existence of a working machine" based on 11.04 (here the perspective is Perl and related PDL, and more)

So I am trying to solve some specific problems as I see them in the perspective of accept or not accept the whole as solution. If the result will not seem satisficing "VM -> Recycle Bin".

About the software management, I also find it very good, but it cannot become forcing to have available only what it provides. I still expect to get all I need to build perl modules within the perl environment, and the package manager works fine (apt-get, yum, or any other ) if and only if it is a way to supply, in a generally accepted way (putting where other tools can find them), what is needed to others to proceed.

If I need an header, as that used to get mod_perl with -lperl (apt-get install libperl-dev), it is good to have the package manager providing a package for that. That is ALL is must do.

About the technical part of the issues I will describe that in another mail, as it could be useful to all of us. Meanwhile this is the description of the GO/NO GO part of the story.

Thanks

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On 4/21/2013 12:16 PM, Dima Kogan wrote:
Fabio D'Alfonso <[email protected]> writes:

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Hi,
I rely on cpan to get perl modules. This works fine on 11.04.
The system gives me all  the libs and headers and I use them to get
modules built. This is the 'acceptable' boundary, which results in
having an updated Perl baseline, based on a "set it and forget it"
system landscape.

Just as an example I cannot build both Math::GSL .27 and PDL 2.006 on
12.10 while they are gracefully working on 11.04.

Obviously I could hold a 12.10 for a cool desktop use of  linux, but it
seems to me not viable to be a development replacement, if the upper
described scheme is not applicable.
I'm not sure what you're saying. Are you asking for help? If so, be more
specific. What doesn't work? How doesn't it work?

Debian-based systems are miles ahead of things like windows or macos in
terms of deployment and management of installed software, but ONLY if
you actually use the packages. If you go out and start installing your
own dependencies behind the back of the package manager, you get no
benefits.

dima

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