On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 07:57:16PM +0000, Adam Spiers wrote:
> Piers Cawley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > Matthew Astley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > > What I'm after is a way to get hold of "debug output from that
> > > module" quickly, without going round uncommenting stuff or
> > > changing constants. I can see there could be some use in (by
> > > default) hiding debug output from any test that passes, but this
> > > still doesn't allow control of the fountain of goop that should
> > > erupt from the internals of the test system.

(by which I think I meant that we should allow the internal stuff out
if we want it - it's handy for T:U newbies, as I remember)

Of course the benefit to newbie goes away if we have decent docs, but
decent debug messages are probably easier. 8-)

> Exactly.  I think we're muddling two different sets of debugging into
> one here.

No, muddling would be accidental. I think the debugging system should
fit in with the program being debugged. It strikes me that debug
output probably suffers because setting up & using a decent framework
is tedious, so if you can ride the T:U one then that's a bonus.

Or rather, we should probably be finding/writing/waiting for a perl
debug message class and using that for T:U.


Matthew  #8-)

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