Wah, kita ngerasanya nggak ditampar pipinya, tapi dielus-elus. Jadi sorry
saja ya. Kalau ngiri silakan saja lakukan yg serupa. Hehe...

JA

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>From: Rizal Az <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Indonesian Students in the US <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: Oyea...? Re: Geger referendum]]
>Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 23:59:31 PST
>
>Oh my... beutifully done mba' Ida!!! I take off my hat and salute you!!!
>Ini baru namanya merendahkan diri, meninggikan mutu he...he...he....
>jeffrey pasti seneng dan puas sekali tuh ngeliat tulisan mba' Ida yang
>mengaku
>salah, sabar dan menjunjung tinggi opponant-nya.
>Jeffrey, menurut pendapat gue sih loe lagi di"mooned" sama mba' Ida...:).
>Ngerasa kaya' ditampar engga' pipi-nya? engga' ngerasa? bagus deh kalau
>gitu... he...he...he...
>
>Mba' Ida tolong dong ajarin kita2 semua, biar bisa jadi politian handal
>nih...:)
>
>Ichal
>
>
>Notrida Mandica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>ooops...
>
>Jangan diperpanjang dong Mas-Mas.  Mas Jeffrey sedang praktek Freedom of
>speech. Kan kita sudah setuju dalam negara demokrasi, kita harus menghargai
>pendapat orang lain.  Tidak peduli mereka junior atau senior, namanya
>menunjukkan kesalahan atau mengeritik adalah hak setiap orang.  Sebagai
>jawabannya, saya harus mengaku salah kalau bersalah. Dan kalau saya benar,
>saya akan membela diri dengan mengajukan data. Dalam keadaan real, saya
>akan
>menggunakan lembaga hukum untuk menjawab Mas Jefferey.
>
>Waktu Tacquoville (probably I spelled it wrong), a French traveler,
>berkunjung ke US, salah satu keterpikatan beliau dengan US adalah konsep
>SPEECH and political freedom to stand front of people and spread new ideas
>and new venture, especially in the political debates. That is the beauty
>of
>democracy when people know where they stand. So, it is absolutely fine for
>others to criticize me. I will learn from their criticism.
>
>Jefferey's critics is so poignant.  Jefferey has inspired me to read more
>and to write more.  Jefferey has inspired to write to Indonesian newspapers
>or journals so that people can read my thoughts.  He is right that I am
>shallow.  He is right that I am not a wonderful scholar.  He is damn right
>that I am not serving my country with wonderful ideas. He is perfectly
>correct.
>
>I study politics from text books, I have written several journal articles
>(they were all published in American journals, btw), and Insya Allah, my
>book (co-author with Dr. Houseman of Indiana University) will be out early
>next year.  Nevertheless, I always believe that inputs from people are
>always wonderful.  I cannot see my dents at my back until someone points
>them out.
>
>Thank you so much friends, Jefferey and Mardhika.  You are my inspirations.
>BTW, I think the title of "RATU BULLSHIT" is not bad at all. It is a title.
>What do you think?
>
>:) enjoy your night,
>
>ida
>
>
>
>
> >From: Mardhika Wisesa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: Indonesian Students in the US <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: [Re: Oyea...? Re: Geger referendum]
> >Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 22:39:46 EST
> >
> >Jeffrey..jeffrey.....anda masuk atau baru menjadi anggota milist ini
>sejak
> >kapan sih?? kok sudah berani mengatakan seseorang yang sudah senior di
> >milist
> >ini seenak perut. Anda seharusnya tau kan dimana tempat anda....
> >Let me see....either anda seorang freshmen yang baru pertama kali ke
> >amerika
> >atau seseorang pelajar atau mahasiswa yang wannabe seperti pelajar dan
> >mahasiswa Indonesia di Amerika.
> >
> >Mardhika Wisesa
> >
> >Jeffrey Anjasmara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Oya? Kalau anda ngomong bukan bullshit juga?
> >Hebat dong. Ini yang disebut ucapan seorang intelek terhebat wanita
> >Indonesia se-AS? Yang calon PhD politik tapi pandangannya juga tidak
>jelas
> >dan relatif dangkal untuk ukuran mahasiswa politik?
> >Hehe....:)Okaylah, saya angkat Mbak Ida sebagai ratu bullshit se-AS.
> >
> >JA

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