On 17/05/2014 09:47, Melinda Shore wrote:
> On 5/16/14 1:41 PM, Ted Lemon wrote:
>> The thing I really hate about these metaphors is that they lead one
>> to the conclusion that it's pointless to use strong crypto, when
>> really the conclusion one should draw is that one should try to avoid
>> living in cardboard boxes, where possible.
> 
> I don't see that, myself.  Seems to me to be arguing for a systems
> view.

I think that is Peter's point, from hearing his talk live a few months
ago. You need crypto, but you also need a very strong cardboard box
with no buffer overflows, and without the password being scrawled
on the outside. And do not trust passing strangers who offer
unexpected gifts.

Of course, there is only so much we can do in IETF protocol
specifications.

    Brian

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