HI Nancy,

I have to be the devil’s advocate and ask if you’re sure that it’s the button 
that the frass if from? A dermestid’s frass usually is the color of what it’s 
fed on. I realize that the button has been fed upon or damaged in some way, 
however it looks more as if a mouse nibbled at it over a dermestid. A dermestid 
will go after horn however, so it’s not completely off the hook as a 
possibility.

The way the frass is kind of clumped together rather than granule, fine dusty 
frass like you see with dermestids. I’m suspecting webbing or casemaking cloths 
moths having eaten something else that was near this object. They always seem 
to leave a surface looking dirty with frass. It could very well be old frass.

Are there any other objects that were near it or on top of it? If it’s new to 
your institution, you could be looking at frass that was deposited onto the 
surface from wherever it came from.

Just throwing some thoughts and observations out there. ☺ I enjoy the problem 
solving process!

Best,
Matt


Matthew A. Mickletz
Manager Preventive Conservation
Winterthur Museum, Garden & Library
Direct 302.888.4752
5105 Kennett Pike
Winterthur, DE 19735
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From: pestlist@googlegroups.com [mailto:pestlist@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jenner, Nancy@Parks
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2022 11:48 AM
To: pestlist@googlegroups.com
Subject: [PestList] Frass and damage on horn button

Hello--  we're cleaning and processing some collections that have already been 
through a freeze cycle.    One item (a fabric bag with a button closure) has 
buttons that are seriously damaged, and residual frass.   I've tentatively 
identified this as a horn button, and my guess is that this is damage from 
dermestid larvae.  Wondering if anyone might be able to confirm that, or 
suggest another culprit?

(note-- the fabric is not damaged)

Thanks very much!

Nancy


Nancy Jenner, Curator
California State Parks
Sutter’s Fort State Historic Park & State Indian Museum
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