Hi Josie,

Since you are new to the IPM process, please remember that light traps, sticky 
traps and other such devices are primarily for monitoring.  They can help you 
determine what species are present and the seriousness of the infestation,  
then you can focus on elimination (or more probably reduction of populations).  
Do not depend on these devices to eliminate your problem.   You also have to 
place the traps in correct orientation. Learning about the life cycle and 
habits of the suspected pest will help you determine the approach.

You will find the https://museumpests.net/ extremely helpful in identifying 
insects and other pests, learning more about their life cycles and strategizing 
on how to deal with them.  There is also information about how to find and work 
with Pest Control companies.

Good Luck
Gretchen Anderson
Conservator and IPM specialist
Carnegie Museum of Natural History

Instructor, Integrated Pest Management in Museums
Museum Study, LLC
https://www.museumstudy.com/
https://www.museumstudy.com/introduction-to-integrated-pest-management

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Hi Josie,

With regards to the flies, a suitable ID would allow for more in-depth advice, 
however Insect light traps will be a good non chemical control option, and will 
allow regular analysis and trending.

For booklice, reducing humidity tp below 50% for at least 15 days will reduce / 
eliminate the current population.

For Silverfish, these will also have numbers reduced with the humidity. Gel 
baits / traps are available on the market for a more robust approach.

Any particular dermestids, you're currently dealing with? Deep cleaning, is 
beneficial, Varied Carpet beetles are known to enter through open doors / 
windows.

Many thanks,
Niall Gallagher Mem.Res


On 18 Feb 2024 21:33, Josie Sneed-Gilliam 
<josie.sneed-gill...@crazyhorse.org<mailto:josie.sneed-gill...@crazyhorse.org>> 
wrote:
Thanks for your reply, Richard! I understand your concerns and share them. 
Currently I am just trying to hear from experts in the field because I am  a 
novice at IPM!

We experience flies year-round in a few of our buildings, and I have also 
guessed that they're probably cluster flies. I would love to hear your 
recommendation options for treating them! They have definitely wreaked havoc on 
our cultural center and are probably multi-generational. I have been trying to 
understand them since I started this job about 7 months ago and while they are 
always there, they are worse in spring and summer. Like I said in my first 
email, we've attempted to seal this building but with little result.

Any recommendations for mitigation and prevention efforts for the silverfish, 
booklice, and dermestids? I'm following the basics of IPM lined out in 
FUNdamentals of Museum IPM by Christa Deacy-Quinn. I monitor with sticky traps, 
diligently clean collections and exhibit spaces, we've tried sealing potential 
entrances, we keep food and water out of collections spaces,  we've effectively 
been able to freeze past infestations, etc. I'm not sure what else I can do 
honestly, which is the only reason I'm considering pesticides. I understand and 
agree that they're not the most environmentally responsible choice, but they 
are currently my last resort.


Josie Sneed-Gilliam

Collections Care Associate

The Indian Museum of North America®

Crazy Horse Memorial Foundation

(605) 673-4681



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Josie,



I would generally discourage efforts to spray the outside of the building, as I 
think it would neither be particularly effective nor sustainable. One could 
also argue that it wouldn’t be environmentally responsible.



What kind(s) of flies are entering in abundance, and during what seasons? Are 
you burdened with them now? If so, these likely are cluster flies that have 
been overwintering within the attic or wall voids, but then cause havoc within 
the human-occupied spaces. There are options to better manage these flies that 
don’t depend upon frequent and widespread pesticide applications.



I anticipate that dermestids, booklice, and silverfish are already in residence 
within the museum. Accordingly, I’d encourage mitigation and prevention efforts 
inside to protect your accessions while continuing to exclude entry of new ones 
from outside.





Richard J. Pollack, PhD

Senior Environmental Public Health Officer
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Hello all,



My institution struggles with pest management due to the nature of construction 
and age of our buildings. Some of our biggest threats are dermestids, booklice, 
and silverfish. We also play host to many flies, which not only poop on our 
collections, but provide a meal for and attract more dermestids. Attempts at 
sealing our buildings have been made but we still struggle. Our problems are so 
extreme that we're considering spraying the OUTSIDE of our buildings to help 
mitigate these risks.



The pest company has recommended the following products: demand, Temprid, and 
Delta guard granulars. I've spoken to the pest company about wanting to keep 
the pesticides outside because we're a museum, and they understood.  I was 
hoping to receive some opinions about the safety and efficacy of the use of 
these chemicals and others at your institutions for pest management. Please 
feel free to share any experiences you find relevant to this topic, positive or 
negative! Thanks.



Josie Sneed-Gilliam

Collections Care Associate

The Indian Museum of North America®

Crazy Horse Memorial Foundation

(605) 673-4681



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