Hello David, Thanks for your reply. It means a lot. I have convinced them to only use gels and seal all the crevices or gaps. Since, it is an AMC, i have requested them to use gels only.
They were pushing for spray to immediately kill the roaches in pantry area but i said to use gel and not spray. Thanks again On Wed, 10 Jun, 2026, 13:27 David Loughlin, <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Rahul > > > > On the face of it, what PCI Rentokil are suggesting looks sensible, by > using chemicals with different active ingredients and modes of action. A > classic pesticide users’ approach to IPM. However, true IPM means using > insecticides as a last resort. Have they been monitoring already and have > they identified possible harbourages, and hot spots of activity. Any > proposal to apply insecticides should be based on a thorough survey and > monitoring programme first. American cockroaches can equally well live > outdoors, especially in hotter climates, so I would be challenging them to > propose long term solutions not just quick fixes. Prevention is better > than control, so what are they suggesting regarding improved hygiene, > exclusion and changes to the building to prevent this problem from > developing further or reoccurring. Or are they just wanting to come in and > spray? > > > > Fipronil is one of the most effective and highly recommended active > ingredients used in gel bait formulations to control Periplaneta americana > (American cockroach) and Blattella germanica (German cockroach) so not sure > why they would say it won’t affect them. The SDS is from Gaiagen which is > the sister company to PCI, so is one of their own products. If their own > product won’t work (according to them) what other gel baits can they > propose? I would still want to see them try the gel bait approach first > before spraying anything. Baits need time to work, so this will not be a > quick fix. Effective pest management may mean repeat visits. Is this part > of their recommendation or are they just suggesting a one-time visit? > > > > You mention pantry areas. If you have an area of the building which > contains food or is used for food preparation, I would question using > sprays in these areas and look at how to improve hygiene here first. For > voids in public spaces, perhaps consider treatments such as Diatomaceous > Earth or other desiccant powders if available. Any such gaps and spaces > should be sealed to prevent insects from using these spaces as harbourages > and also to facilitate cleaning. Again, gels will help treat populations > that live in ducts and voids as the cokroaches should take the bait and > return to the harbourage where they die. It is often suggested that other > cockroaches then feed on the dead roach, creating what is known as the > domino effect. That was certainly an early marketing claim of brands such > as Maxforce. Would they be able to treat these ducts and voids any better > with sprays? > > > > I hope you find these suggestions helpful. > > > > Regards > > > > David > > > > David Loughlin > > Historyonics > > www.historyonics.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *From: *<[email protected]> on behalf of R R < > [email protected]> > *Reply to: *<[email protected]> > *Date: *Wednesday 10 June 2026 at 07:48 > *To: *<[email protected]> > *Subject: *Re: [PestList] Suggestion regarding pest treatment in an art > gallery stationed in Mumbai, India > > > > Hello David, > > Thank you for this. > > > > Pest management company is saying that the gel won't affect American > cockroaches which i highly doubt. > > Also they recommend using sprays in pantry area and draining and ducts, > and skirting areas of the viewing space, which I am not sure of. > > > > What do you suggest > > > > On Wed, 10 Jun, 2026, 12:10 David Loughlin, <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hello Rahul > > > > Rentokil PCI are probably the largest pest control service company in > India but perhaps not the brightest. They seem to be wanting to throw > everything including the kitchen sink at your cockroach problem. > > > > If they are proposing to use gels, that is great and fipronil based gel is > a decent one to use. However for gels to work, it is advised not to disturb > the population by applying any other insecticide, so why they would want to > use a repellent and a insecticidal sprays is confusing unless they are > treating different parts of your gallery, but even then I wouldn’t. Gels > are placed discretely so the cockroaches feed on them, then go back to > their harbourages to die. Sprays would disturb this effect. > > > > Clothianidin Is a more modern chemical, an neonicotinoid and also used in > gel baits but the SDS you supplied is for WDG or water dispersable granules > which suggests they want to spray it. Again I would not recommend this > alongside gels. It has a broad spectrum effect so will take care of most > crawling insects. > > > > I wouldn’t allow propoxur anywhere near the gallery. Already banned in > many countries, carbamates are old technology and as > acetylcholinesterase inhibitors, not great for us. > > > > Gumtree are a good Indian company making some decent insect traps so those > are fine and I would want to see PCI monitoring the situation. PCI also > have access to super sized traps from Gumtree like the Exoroach so that > might be worth exploring with them. > > > > Hope this helps. Good luck. > > > > David > > Historyonics > > > > On 10 Jun 2026, at 06:40, R R <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > Recently in one of the galleries, the pest management company saw American > and german cockroach in our gallery. > > Now they are suggesting following chemicals? > > > > Are they safe for the art gallery which has artworks. > > > > Request you to please advise. > > Thank you > > > > Rahul Raina > > Senior Manager and Senior Conservator. > > -- > This PestList and the MuseumPests.com web site are made possible due to > the talent, intelligence, devotion and donations of hundreds of volunteers. > Your donation to help this resource continue would be greatly appreciated. > > Please consider a donation donating at https://givebutter.com/MuseumPests > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MuseumPests" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pestlist/CAG_4n2XM3cWJU9iBZYEoA%2BUoi_1cR2L2Ak2YCNdHtzBkSS8GVQ%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pestlist/CAG_4n2XM3cWJU9iBZYEoA%2BUoi_1cR2L2Ak2YCNdHtzBkSS8GVQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > <Fipronil Gel MSDS.pdf> > > <MSDS-Bug-Beetle_Guard-_Nov-24__1_ (1).pdf> > > <MSDS TRANSPORTEX (Propoxur 20% EC) 2021.pdf> > > <Sumipride CLOTHIANIDIN 50 WDG-MSDS (2).pdf> > > <GSS Brochure (2) (1).pdf> > > <Gumtree IMT MSDS.pdf> > > -- > This PestList and the MuseumPests.com web site are made possible due to > the talent, intelligence, devotion and donations of hundreds of volunteers. > Your donation to help this resource continue would be greatly appreciated. > > Please consider a donation donating at https://givebutter.com/MuseumPests > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MuseumPests" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pestlist/ADAE94FE-9AAA-44B8-A0D7-EF5BFEF68A0C%40historyonics.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pestlist/ADAE94FE-9AAA-44B8-A0D7-EF5BFEF68A0C%40historyonics.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > This PestList and the MuseumPests.com web site are made possible due to > the talent, intelligence, devotion and donations of hundreds of volunteers. > Your donation to help this resource continue would be greatly appreciated. > > Please consider a donation donating at https://givebutter.com/MuseumPests > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MuseumPests" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pestlist/CAG_4n2W8%2B-mgvLeHDFoXL%2BcWGNWn4dh12Q2zdM674YDeHCBTiw%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pestlist/CAG_4n2W8%2B-mgvLeHDFoXL%2BcWGNWn4dh12Q2zdM674YDeHCBTiw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > This PestList and the MuseumPests.com web site are made possible due to > the talent, intelligence, devotion and donations of hundreds of volunteers. > Your donation to help this resource continue would be greatly appreciated. > > Please consider a donation donating at https://givebutter.com/MuseumPests > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MuseumPests" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pestlist/D721445B-037A-4049-94CD-BC03A9C27444%40historyonics.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pestlist/D721445B-037A-4049-94CD-BC03A9C27444%40historyonics.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- This PestList and the MuseumPests.com web site are made possible due to the talent, intelligence, devotion and donations of hundreds of volunteers. 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