You`re right Sharlane. Gialdi vs Basset is the useless discussion. Pardon me, please. By the way, how do you measure anoxia treatments` effectiveness? Can you find the bugs you`ve killed but can`t be seen? Luis Pinho
> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:28:19 -0400 > Subject: Re: R: Re: RE R: RE: [pestlist] Moving Clean > From: s...@case.edu > To: pestlist@museumpests.net > > This is a message from the Pest Management Database List. > To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net > To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > I AM interested in this discussion, and feel it is pertinent to the > list as there are not too many suppliers of the type of equipment used > for this process, and those considering using it or who already have > it want to know the facts concerning its effectiveness (since this has > been called into question.) > > What do you and others feel IS the appropriate time and place for this > type of question if not a public list-serve specifically about > treatments for eradicating/preventing infestations of pests? > > When a particular discussion is not useful to me (and there are many), > I just do not read it and then delete any with the same thread as soon > they appear in my e-mail. > > Sharlane Gubkin > > On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Luís Pinho <lmf...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > As this mailing list is not a public market, a court or something similar, > > it would be great to leave the VELOXY questions to another time and place.. > > > > I'm not interested in this useless discussion. > > > > Luís Pinho > > > > > > > >> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 15:05:57 +0200 > >> From: rgi...@tiscali.it > >> To: pestlist@museumpests.net > >> Subject: R: Re: RE R: RE: [pestlist] Moving Clean > >> > >> This is a message from the Pest Management Database List. > >> To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net > >> To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. > >> ----------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Dear friends of PESTLIST, > >> I red from home (because a flue) the > >> astonishing message of Dr. Basset concerning Veloxy; I will write as > >> soon as possible a message to everybody of you showing the references > >> of the equipment that was developed , certified and that is > >> successfully applied in the list of Conservation Institutes that are in > >> our references at the web site : www.rgi-genova.com. > >> In my next message > >> I will list the persons that can be contacted to know exactly if VELOXY > >> had problems in their Conservation Institues. > >> As the matter of the > >> facts, Dr. Basset has not used Veloxy, until now, because it was > >> crashed during the transport from Italy to France and for this reason, > >> could not jet be installed at the National Library de France in Paris. > >> > >> I have no idea why Dr. Basset, to whom I have a lot of respect, informs > >> all of you that there are some problems in Veloxy system. > >> Sincerely > >> Ercole Gialdi > >> RGI Resource Group Integrator > >> Genova (Italy) > >> > >> ---- > >> Messaggio originale---- > >> Da: jan.dondajew...@gmail.com > >> Data: 05/10/2009 > >> 13.07 > >> A: <pestlist@museumpests.net> > >> Ogg: Re: RE R: RE: [pestlist] > >> Moving Clean > >> > >> Dear Mr Basset, > >> > >> I have found your email extremely > >> important. I own private commercial > >> conservation and restoration studio > >> in Poland and I was thinking about > >> using veloxy system technology in > >> my practice. Could you please be so kind > >> and describe me precisely > >> what real problem is with veloxy machine. > >> > >> Jan Dondajewski > >> > >> > >> Pracownia > >> Konserwacji Grafiki > >> Jan Dondajewski > >> ul. Wolnica 7/8 > >> 61-764 Poznań > >> > >> Poland > >> tel/fax: +48 61 855 20 67 > >> tel: +48 601 785 237 > >> jan. > >> dondajew...@gmail.com > >> > >> 2009/10/5 <tony.bas...@bnf.fr> > >> > >> > > >> > Dear all, > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > It is necessary to pay attention with the systeme veloxy, there are > >> problém > >> > with this machine. > >> > Besides, the report of the project save > >> art is untraceable, and the sociétè > >> > which markets this machine does > >> not absolutely re-lay. > >> > I have of the other fournissuer if you wish. > >> > > >> > >> > M Tony BASSET > >> > Bibliothèque nationale de France > >> > Laboratoire > >> scientifique et technique > >> > section microbiologie /unité désinfection > >> > > >> 14 avenue Gutenberg > >> > 77 600 Bussy Saint Georges > >> > Tél: 01 53 79 38 34 > >> > >> > Fax: 0153 79 39 10 > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Message de : *"rgi...@tiscali.it" <rgi. > >> g...@tiscali.it>* > >> > 01/10/2009 15:03 > >> > Envoyé par : > >> > > >> *pestlist-ow...@museumpests.net**veuillez répondre à > >> > > >> pestl...@museumpests.net* > >> > > >> > Pour > >> > <pestlist@museumpests.net>Copie > >> > > >> Objet > >> > R: RE: [pestlist] Moving Clean > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > This is a message from > >> the Pest Management Database List. > >> > To post to this list send it as an > >> email to pestlist@museumpests.net > >> > To unsubscribe please look at the > >> footer of this email. > >> > > >> ----------------------------------------------------------- > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > Dear all museumpestlist > >> > VELOXY is the smallest (all over the world) > >> and > >> > less heavy tool to apply the anoxia method in museums archives > >> and > >> > libraries ; it was properly developed for this purpose and > >> certified by > >> > an European project in 1998 - 2000. Since that time it > >> was improved > >> > upon the suggestions of the people in charge of > >> conservation > >> > Institutes. > >> > Please give a look to the references at > >> RGI's web site: www. > >> > rgi-genova.com > >> > thanks to everybody of you for > >> any welcome comments and > >> > suggestions > >> > Ercole Gialdi (rgi...@tiscali. > >> it) > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ----Messaggio > >> > originale---- > >> > Da: lmf...@hotmail.com > >> > > >> Data: 01/10/2009 11..05 > >> > A: > >> > <pestlist@museumpests.net> > >> > Ogg: RE: > >> [pestlist] Moving Clean > >> > > >> > > >> > Dear > >> > Linda, > >> > > >> > We've been working with > >> EXPM in Portugal and we can confirm > >> > their successful performance in > >> book disinfestation. Static/semi- > >> > dynamic anoxia bubbles are > >> particularly useful for great collection > >> > volumes such as the ones you > >> have. > >> > > >> > Right now we're looking for smaller > >> > anoxia systems for > >> smaller objects. The little volume of anoxia needed > >> > makes big anoxia > >> generation economically less viable. > >> > > >> > Greetings for > >> > everyone for > >> such great discussions. > >> > > >> > Luís Pinho > >> > > >> > -- > >> > 20|21 Conservação > >> > e > >> Restauro de Arte Contemporânea, Lda. > >> > www.2021.pt > >> > Office: IN > >> > > >> Serralves, Rua de Serralves 954, Porto > >> > Atelier: Rua do Rosário 339-B, > >> > >> > 1º Esq, Porto > >> > tel +351 22 010 98 71 > >> > mob +351 96 008 06 0 > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Date: > >> > Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:35:50 +0100 > >> > Subject: Re: [pestlist] > >> Moving Clean > >> > > >> > From: rfons...@expm.com.pt > >> > To: pestl...@museumpests. > >> net > >> > > >> > Dear Linda > >> > Moore, > >> > We have done several works of this kind > >> using anoxia bubbles as > >> > well as vacuuing all the items from the > >> collections to be transferred > >> > to the new deposits with much success > >> regarding preserving both > >> > collections and deposits. > >> > > >> > You may find > >> further info @ www.expm.com.pt > >> > > >> > Feel free to ask for any detailed > >> information. > >> > Kind regards, > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > 2009/9/30 Linda Moore > >> <lmo...@fcgov.com> > >> > > >> > This is a message from the > >> > Pest Management > >> Database List. > >> > To post to this list send it as an email > >> > to > >> pestlist@museumpests.net > >> > > >> > To unsubscribe please look at the footer > >> > > >> of this email. > >> > > >> > > >> ----------------------------------------------------------- > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > I am > >> > the Collections Curator at the Fort Collins Museum & Discovery > >> > >> > > >> > Science > >> > Center, where we are in the planning stage of a big move > >> to a > >> > newly > >> > built building. Our collections, which include a large > >> clothing > >> > and > >> > textile collection, appear pretty clean right now as > >> far as pests > >> > go, > >> > but a history of carpet beetle infestations makes > >> me wary of moving > >> > > >> > > >> > old problems to this new facility. I am trying > >> to plan the most > >> > > >> > effective yet feasible method for insuring that we > >> don't move pests > >> > with > >> > our collections. What's best? Spot checking > >> and only addressing > >> > > >> > > >> > problems as they appear? Freezing > >> everything? Having our pest > >> > > >> > management company bomb our current > >> collections storage? > >> > > >> > If you have > >> > moved recently and dealt with > >> this issue I'd love to get > >> > your advice! > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > “Three things in > >> human life are important: the first is to be kind; > >> > the > >> > second is to > >> be kind; and the third is to be kind." 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