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Gretchen, Yes, I totally agree, all sticky traps are monitors and should not be used for control. They also do not need to be as big as some currently available. This is why I am looking at developing a small, discreet little detector with a small glue area, which you can place in tight places. It only needs to catch a few insects. The monitors will be used to; alert a problem, identify the pest or pests and indicate the direction where they may have come from. When it comes to actual methods of control, if the infestation was throughout the building I would advocate placing all infected and delicate items into ZerO2 FlexiCubes and undertake an anoxic treatment. Whilst that was in progress and the collection was safely cocooned I would use the time to deep clean the building and toughly spray with a residual insecticide. At the end of the exposure time, the FlexiCubes can be opened and the collection returned to display. And then a full IPM program should be instigated. Colin Smith Conservation Ltd. Direct line Direct line 01444 400481. Mobile 07777672250 Webs;http://www.csconserv.co.uk/ & http://conserv.biz/ Alternate email address:- colininnovat...@googlemail.com. Please copy all emails to this address.This email and the information it contains may contain confidential information which it could be a criminal offence for you to disclose without authority. If you are not an intended recipient please notify us immediately; please do not copy or disclose its contents to any person or body, and delete it from your computer systems. Email may be susceptible to data corruption, interception and unauthorised amendment, and we do not accept liability for any such corruption, interception or amendment or the consequences thereof. From: Anderson, Gretchen Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 10:29 PM To: mailto:pestlist@museumpests.net Subject: Re: [pestlist] LinkedIn discussion This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. ----------------------------------------------------------- This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. ----------------------------------------------------------- Colin, Unfortunately, I do not have access to my linkedin account at this time, but will join the conversation as soon as I can. I agree with Tom - blunder traps are very effective in identifying the species that are present in a museum - both pest and non pest species. They are also an inexpesive way to start determining population density and distribution. These are the first steps that need to be taken with IPM. Pheremone traps, when used properly, are good for focusing in on specific pests. Pheremones target specific species and not all museum pests have had their pheremones specifically distilled. We are not the primary market. In addition, pheremones attract only the male of the species. Blunder traps and pheremone traps are useful tools for monitoring pests only. Not for eliminating pests. Hope this helps. Gretchen Anderson Conservator Carnegie Museum of Natural History From: colin smith [mailto:inhol...@btinternet.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 02:09 PM To: pestlist@museumpests.net <pestlist@museumpests.net> Subject: Re: [pestlist] LinkedIn discussion Sorry Tom, I have to disagree. What you describe is what you say it is; A blunder trap. There is no doubt that the advances is pheromone technology has enabled the development very effective and accurate monitors, capable of detecting very small or new infestations. Blunder traps simply demonstrate how severe an infestation has become. For insects and even mice to be caught this way indicates severe infestations. Not something of much use when you consider many museums following good IPM protocols regard one moth as a serious infestation! I’m not ‘re-inventing the wheel’ but rather trying to develop something which may bring us into the 21st century. A trap with a number of pheromone lures which will attract insects even if there are very few around; at a fair and reasonable price. I can well understand museums using ineffective blunder traps, particularly when we all have to control costs. What I am trying to develop and offer is something in a similar price range which actually works! All the best Colin From: bugma...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 6:37 PM To: pestlist@museumpests.net Subject: Re: [pestlist] LinkedIn discussion This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. ----------------------------------------------------------- Barbara - As far as the museum community goes, flat, cardboard glueboards, manufactured by Atlantic Paste & Glue Co. of Brooklyn, NY or Bell Laboratories in Wisconsin and others are the best "multi-functional" insect traps on the market today. Even flying insects end up in these "blunder" traps. Not only can you determine the kinds of insects getting caught (indoor or outdoor), you can often determine from which direction they're coming. As an added bonus, mice can be caught on the larger ones. And they're cheap! Let's not reinvent the wheel. Tom Parker -----Original Message----- From: Appelbaum & Himmelstein <aa...@mindspring.com> To: pestlist <pestlist@museumpests.net> Sent: Tue, Jan 3, 2012 10:58 am Subject: [pestlist] LinkedIn discussion This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. ----------------------------------------------------------- The ICOM members list on LinkedIn is having a discussion about the possibility of developing a multi-functional insect trap. I suggested that they post on the pest list as well. If they don't, those of you who are interested should go on to the LinkedIn site to put in your two cents. Barbara Appelbaum This is the posting: Monitoring Dear all, I am considering the development of a multi functional insect trap / monitor which will trap the most common insects in one simple unit. Is there a need for something like this? -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This email, and any attachments, may be confidential and also privileged. 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