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Yikes- fortunately we haven't run into this yet...  but I will keep
this info on record!

On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Louis Sorkin <sor...@amnh.org> wrote:
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> If you happen to have bed bugs (funny I should mention them!) in boxes (I've
> seen office records with bed bugs from clients, workers, other people's
> homes), taking it down to 32F is no where near sufficient.  In fact, taking
> it down to -30F for a few hours doesn't kill them either; they just warm up
> and wake up after bringing the material back to room temp.
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> Dana -
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> In addition you need to realize that boxes of archives are very dense - and
> that paper is very good insulator. In fact, shredded paper is used to
> insulate houses in northern climates.  Given that, it is not surprising that
> it took time to reach the the desired temperature.  Be patient - the method
> works.
>
> Gretchen Anderson
> Conservator
> Carnegie  Museum of Natural History
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> Dana -
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> First of all, the temperature does not have to reach -20F in 4 hours.  It
> should reach 32F in 4 hours.  That's sufficient.  The reason you use a truck
> capable of maintaining -20F, is it will reach the desired 32F in 4 hours.
> Once the liquid in adults, larvae, and eggs reaches a freezing temperature,
> ice particles form and destroy the cellular structure of the living
> organisms.  Unless you're dealing with "book worms", which I doubt you are
> with archival records, any insects found in these materials will certainly
> be killed.  When freezing anything, you're trying to beat insects from
> forming natural defenses to freezing.  I think your process worked fine.
> Have you found any live insects?
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> I have had plenty of sucessful freezing episodes with freezer trucks,
> containers, and warehouses.
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> Tom Parker
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> Subject: [pestlist] Freezer Trucks
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> We recently tried using a freezer truck to process a large number of
> boxes of archives.  Record boxes were stacked in rows with 12" gaps
> between the rows to allow for air circulation.  We placed a datalogger
> in the center of one of the boxes of archive materials (in the center
> of the truck) and another outside the boxes to measure the temperature
> of the air in the truck box.  The results were surprising.
>
> We had been informed that the truck would go down to -20 degrees F in
> 4 hours.  Our data loggers showed that it took 10 hours for the air in
> the truck to go from 44 degrees F to -15 degrees F, and the
> temperature inside one of the record boxes took ~96 hours to drop from
> 70 degrees to -15 degrees.  (The boxes had been in a 72 degree
> environment before being placed in the truck box).  It appears that
> the starting temperature of the boxes of paper was more difficult to
> reduce than I expected.  And the truck never achieved the desired
> temperature.
>
> We are very disappointed in these initial results and are trying to
> figure out if there is a different  strategy for using a freezer
> truck, or if this is just not feasible for freezing densely packed
> materials, such as paper packed in a record box.  We are discussing
> packing boxes half full and packing the truck to allow for even more
> air circulation.  But it seems that getting to the goal of -20 degrees
> F in 4 hours may not be feasible.
>
> Does anyone have any positive experiences working with a freezer truck
> for processing a large quantity of materials?  Especially dense
> materials such as wood or boxes of paper?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dana Senge
> Assistant Conservator
> National Park Service
> Intermountain Region Museum Services Program
> Tucson, AZ 85745
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