I have no objections to the schools idea, but I also have experienced
with my son the issue of all schools work on PCs being MS centric -
despite the fact that he runs Ubuntu exclusively!


As for the development of the LUG, I would love to see it take off
again, although I am aware that we are all busy people, and travelling
in to Peterborough is not always viable each month.  

Following on from the active ideas that have been posed, what about
setting up a program of active things that we will DO?

For example:

*  An install-fest as suggested

*  A chance to install and administer a firewall

*  A chance to set up a backup-up regime using rsync or a range of
software solutions  (I am biased her as I have a problem with rsyncs
that I will post separately!)

*  Running a music / web / mail / etc server?

*  Setting up untangle

i.e some concrete things that we can actually do.

I am very aware that it is all OK me suggesting this, as I do not have
the hardware or the skills!  Maybe....?


Ed



-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Sones <[email protected]>
Reply-to: Peterborough LUG - No commercial posts
<[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Peterboro] The use of Linux
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:26:47 +0000

This is a great idea, but perhaps one more suited to the silver surfers, 
rather than those of school-going age.

There may well be a somewhat lukewarm response from schools, since they 
are all geared up to teach  computer skills which the kids will need 
when they go looking for jobs. This means they will have to be 
proficient with Windows, MS Office, Outlook, etc., so Linux may seem 
something of a distraction.

Where there is a crying need for education and training though is with 
the older generation. This group is not only becoming a significant 
sector of the Internet user community, it is also largely untainted by 
the indoctrination of the Evil Empire. For the most part, they also 
require low-cost computing solutions, so Linux is a very attractive option.

I tried to get something like this going in our local library a while 
back. They have a computer suite which is somewhat underused, so I 
suggested the idea to them. I didn't specifically say that the emphasis 
would be on Linux-based systems and was quite happy to talk about 
Windows as well. However, although the head librarian was enthusiastic 
about the idea, her boss at SKDC seemed determined to throw every 
obstacle in the way that was possible. We had Health & Safety issues (in 
a public library?), certification of trainers, insurance - the list went 
on. Eventually, I gave up. But lo and behold, a couple of months later, 
the library was advertising free computer basics courses for pensioners 
and retired people, run by the local technical college.

A win of sorts I suppose. But Linux is definitely not on the agenda.

I'm now working up quite a good conspiracy theory to launch in a viral 
email shortly. It's based on the idea that Redmond have secretly 
installed mind-control software inside all the PC's used by government 
and local councils.

Tinfoil hats, anyone?

Dave

 
>
> Subject:
> [Peterboro] Meeting Venues, was Re: The use of Linux
> From:
> Mark Rogers <[email protected]>
> Date:
> Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:52:01 +0000
> To:
> Peterborough LUG - No commercial posts <[email protected]>
>
> To:
> Peterborough LUG - No commercial posts <[email protected]>
>
>
> This use of Linux thread ties in quite nicely with a chat I was having 
> with Ben Hayes this morning.
>
> What would be the general opinion of trying to hold PLUG meetings in a 
> school or college as a kind of "evening class"-cum-PLUG-meet? Ie 
> making a specific attempt to try to educate people (not so much about 
> the "why" they should use FOSS, more initially about they "how" to use 
> FOSS). There must be people who would be keen to go beyond the IT 
> skills of using Excel to other tasks and with other operating systems.
>
> If we can get them young we can try to send them out into the world 
> with an open mind.
>
> I'm not sure if or how it would work, but as we're looking for a venue 
> anyway I thought it might be somewhere we could try?

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