Well, this just gets better and better, the more i read into this problem
the more stupid it sounds, for example, take my existing sata drives, they
sensibly have a pin-out on the back to which you can set jumpers to say
"limit this drive to 1.5Gbps transfer rate", which is great because my
motherboard only supports 1.5Gbps Sata (or SATA1). The option therefore to
uprate the speed to Sata II is simply to remove the jumper.

On this new drive, the transfer rate needs to be done via software if the
drive fails to negotiate the speed automatically with the controller (Mobo
Sata says "No Device" as startup so i assume thats a failure.).

The problem being is (and heres were it gets silly) to DOWNRATE the transfer
speed you need to connect it to a motherboard that supports the Full 3.0Gbps
(Sata II) standard - because obviously if the controller can't detect the
drive, the software provided by Samsung isnt going to be able to work ,
haha.


Three options remain:

Go to PC World (I'm off at lunch to try this) speak to the "tech guys" and
see if they will do the honours for me and downrate it to 1.5Gbps compulsory
with the samsung software

Get a new motherboard that supports SATA II and socket 478 processors, but
means i need a new GFX card also becuase the new Mobo's all use PCI-E
instead of AGP

Get a PCI SATA II raid Card (so far all searches reveal these are PCI-E so
will also need number 2 above, in which case number 2 might be the only
option as my current Mobo does not support PCI-E).

Sorry for going off- topic with this it was supposed to be why it worked in
Windows and not in ubuntu. this is so annoying because the drive "works"
using teh PCI sata-raid card provided I unplug it at the bois level and then
hotplug the drive once windows is loaded.

The whole point of this was to have the new 1Tb drive mounted on ubuntu as
EXT3, but for some reason because the drive fails negotiation at the bios
level with the sata raid card, it all falls over in a heap, there must be
something in the windows driver that allows it to negotiate successfully.

I'm off to PC-World in a few minutes to see if they will knock the drive
down to 1.5gbps for me, otherwise its a new mobo and graphics card for me!
joy!

Will report back this afternoon

2009/12/29 Richard Forth <[email protected]>

> Oh this is pathetic, lol
>
>
> To force in SATA1 mode you may need a SATA2 mobo by eadmaster
>
> It seems to me that there is no jumper to force the SATA speed.
> The only way i've found to make this HDD work with the VIA VT8237
> southbridge is to force the HDD in SATA1 mode as stated in the manual with
> the ES-TOOL.
> But, in order to perform this operation you must connect the HDD to a
> SATA2-compatible motherboard, you can't set the mode with the
> above-mentioned controller.
>
> How stupid is that, why can't they keep things nice and simple like the 2
> samsung 250Gb drives I have that DO handle the jumper settings that Malc
> suggested??
>
>
> http://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/1Tb+Samsung+EcoGreen+F2+SATA-2+Hard+Drive+HD103SI+?productId=35347&page=2&rqcType
> =
>
> See the reviews / comments section.
>
> Grrr
>
> 2009/12/29 Richard Forth <[email protected]>
>
>  Thanks Malc but the jumper setting in the manual does not correspond with
>> wat is on the back of the new HDD (only four :: pins instead of eight ::::)
>> I have tried the jumper on both but doesnt make any difference - still hangs
>> at boot, windows is picking it up with no jumper settings, if I hot plug it
>> only, if I try to reboot with the drive connected it wil hang again.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/12/29 Malcolm Hunter <[email protected]>
>>
>>  > Anyone else had similar problems, how did you fix it, is there a
>>> "windows
>>> > utility" to set the hrad drive to 1.5Gpbs? (Its a Samsung HD103SI)
>>>
>>> The manual says to use the jumper:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/content/UM/200510/20051010165142468_3.5_SATA_eng_r4.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>> Malc
>>>
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