Thanks Richard
for reminding me of this (I had already knowen this, that is why I dismiss
trying to do the first point and desided to consertate on the secound point I
made starting:
"Tacking the secound search I would like to beable to enter froot, apple, fruit
and/or colour and for the
program to find orange as one of the posibal answers.............."
Steve
On 23 Mar 2010, at 11:25, Richard Forth wrote:
> The main problem you will need to over come with a dislexic spellcheck
> program will be not necessarily the spellings (although there may be a few
> common dislexic traits in specific words, but the main problem seems to be
> checking words are used in context correctly, for example.
>
> The surgeon operated on my braid, to do this he had to first cut my beloved
> brains out.
>
> {correction} The surgeon operated on my brain, to do this he had to first cut
> my beloved braids out.
>
> See the problem you suggested in not that the word braid or braids is spelt
> incorrectly - as you have already stated it is correct - however is it not
> correct in the context of the sentence it is in.
>
> This would be much harder to programatically verify and correct.
>
> I would not want to attempt this myself.
>
> But then I'm a novice keyboard hacker anyway. lol
>
> Hope this gives you a bit of insight into the complexities you face.
>
> Regards
> Richard
>
> On 17 March 2010 23:36, Steve Tompkins-MacQueen <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have a programming problem that we as a group may beable to tackle.
>
> As some of you will know I am dislex... and find the "spell check" on most
> systems as not helpfull.
>
> So I am thinking of putting togever a website for devloping a "dislex.. spell
> check" and perhaps this could be a project that could be worked on as a group
> (any body intrested?)
>
> Who dous this fit into this threed and OO
>
> Well lets have a look at what the goal should be:-
>
> I want to find some words and the spell check can not find them.
>
> 1) One of the words is "Brain" but I have put "Braid" both are the right
> spelling but only one is right.
>
> 2)The other is that word that is the name of a fruit but not an apple and is
> the same name as a colour.
>
> The first one is a problem on contexeulised searching.
>
> The secound one is a problem of relationlised searches.
>
> Tacking the secound search I would like to beable to enter froot, apple,
> fruit and/or colour and for the program to find orange as one of the posibal
> answers.
>
> I can do this easly in BASIC and C by using what I call linked-lists (this
> may not be the same as what is knowen by other programmes as linked lists)
> What I mean is:
>
> each word is stored as an array (theIndex, theWord, theLink) (theLink) being
> a pointer to other words so:
>
> that data would be:-
>
> a1,apple,b2a304a2
> a3,orange,a1b204a2
> b2,tree,a1a304a2
>
> so what would happen if I entered a search for "tree" the "theLink" would
> also point to "apple" and "orange" as well as others.
>
> The problem is in OO we are define a singel object that is self contaned with
> data and methords to do things with that data but I want to make links
> between objects if I chouse "the word" as the object but as fare as I know
> doing this in OO is a big no,no. I may be wrong am I?
>
> So what should the Object be? (word, link or index) and how would you link
> one object to another?
>
> I'll let the group know when the web site is up if any one is into helping
> with this?
>
> Steve
>
> On 17 Mar 2010, at 22:37, Andrew Clark wrote:
>
>> Steve wrote:
>>
>> not all problems are the same, I think we have got so focused on OO that
>> perhaps we have thowen the baby out with the bath water.
>>
>> We probably have, OO is just a means of coping with complexity and in that
>> respect it works.
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve
>> Tompkins-MacQueen
>> Sent: 17 March 2010 21:38
>> To: Peterborough LUG - No commercial posts
>> Subject: Re: [Peterboro] Programming language to learn
>>
>>
>> On 17 Mar 2010, at 15:51, Andrew Clark wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Steve wrote:
>>
>> We are all told by the books on programming and others that Object Orintated
>> (OO)languages like Objective-C and C++ are easer to learn (for me they are
>> NOT!!!). I have a problem with the consept of repatting my self and using 3
>> lines of code where one will do:
>>
>> OO languages like java are used in Education
>>
>> I was not talking about education.
>>
>>
>> not because they are easier to learn, but because they follow the theory of
>> OO and build better programs.
>>
>> Some thing we all know.
>> :-) LOL
>> The consept of "better" is a dificalt one to define. "better" programs are
>> not made though the use of any given methodologe but "better" desine
>> :-) LOL
>>
>>
>> Not in the case of Hello, World but in bigger projects especially with
>> multiple programmers.
>>
>> I used "Hello World" not because it is a representation of a big project or
>> a project with multiple programmers but because it simply demostars the
>> problems with saying any given methodologe is the best. As not all problems
>> are the same, I think we have got so focused on OO that perhaps we have
>> thowen the baby out with the bath water.
>>
>> I always teach C prior to C++ because it is easier to learn and it is a
>> very simple language.
>>
>> I so wish I did NOT learn BASIC and C prior to C++ and Objective-C. I am
>> shore I would find learning OO easer if I had not had C before hand because
>> I would always be comparing things back to C.
>>
>>
>> I leant it from K&R but that’s going back a bit...
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve
>> Tompkins-MacQueen
>> Sent: 17 March 2010 00:06
>> To: Peterborough LUG - No commercial posts
>> Subject: Re: [Peterboro] Programming language to learn
>>
>> I started programming when 1980/81 on TRS-80, ZX-81 and RM-380 the 2 things
>> all of these had in common was a Z80 CPU mechincode and BASIC
>>
>> BY 1998 I had started a HND in computer and comuation hardware and software
>> engernering and had to get to grips with C and a year latter started C++
>>
>> Now I'm trying to get to grips with Objective-C
>>
>> Now most of you by now know I am dislex... and can see that from my spelling
>> but some of you may also know that it also changes the way I think.
>>
>> We are all told by the books on programming and others that Object Orintated
>> (OO)languages like Objective-C and C++ are easer to learn (for me they are
>> NOT!!!). I have a problem with the consept of repatting my self and using 3
>> lines of code where one will do:
>>
>> OO coding:-
>>
>> 1) Define what the object "hello would" is going to be.
>> 2) Define the methords that "hello would" is going to use.
>> 3) cerate the "hello would" object
>> 4) create a instance of the "hello would" object
>> 5) use the instance of "hello would"
>> 6) distroy the instance of "hello would"
>>
>> C
>> main ()
>> {
>> printf ("hello would" );
>> }
>>
>> BASIC coding:-
>> 10 Print "hello would"
>>
>> witch language is better?
>>
>> Answer: witch ever you like.
>>
>> witch language should I lern?
>>
>> Answer: depends on what computer and OS you whant the program to run on,
>> what you want to do and how your brain works.
>>
>> LINUX/UNIX text based mostly C and C++
>> Web PHP and Java Script (difent from "Java")
>> Mac (Mac, iPhone, iPad) Objective-C
>> Old Home computers BASIC
>>
>> MYSQL PHP seems to be the way to go.
>> there are meny others
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 16 Mar 2010, at 21:36, Umar Ijaz wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Quite a few years back i started a degree in computer science and the
>> language that was chosen by the faculty was C. C is a good starter
>> language. But now I think C++ could be a better language if you want to
>> start dipping your toes. I currently use C++ as a hobbyist :-P I am still
>> learning different things.
>>
>> Comparing C with C++. They share the same basics. But C++ lets you explore
>> a lot more. I am currently completing my degree with the Open University
>> and there we use Java. On comparision Leicester University uses C. It is
>> not the syntax but the application of the language and how it can be used
>> easily.
>>
>> But that said and after Tony's message, I have no idea how to do it all on
>> Linux :-P I am still new to Linux and would wanna know more about
>> programming in the Linux environment. Apparently the Linux command line is
>> a powerful tool. I read on one of the websites about it. but then again
>> Tony would be an expert on this.
>>
>> Take a look here
>>
>> http://linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php
>>
>> The first paragraph has inspired me to learn Linux.
>>
>> I hope this helps.
>>
>> Umar
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:09 PM, Stewart Robertson
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Your thoughts, if you please...
>>
>> I've been reading various threads/articles discussing the pros and cons
>> of learning/writing in various programming languages (C, C++, Java,
>> Python, Perl, Ruby, PHP etc.)
>>
>> I do not have huge amounts of time to devote to learning a particular
>> language but at the same time I am not in a hurry to learn a language
>> for the sake of it (i.e. I'll keep dipping in over a long period of time).
>>
>> So far I have come to the conclusion that C is a good option because it
>> is used in a lot of important stuff and runs quickly. At the same time
>> Python is much easier to get to grips with. PHP is very web specific and
>> Java is a pain to learn.
>>
>> What language do you think it would be most useful to start dipping my
>> toes in to and why?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Stewart
>>
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