Hi Matt,

thanks for your response!
I haven't studied the recent literature on reordering algorithms, but came across a talk by Tim Davis, the developer of SuiteSparse, from 2013:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ph4ZQ9oEIc&t=2109s

At minute 33:40 he shows the impact of different reordering libraries applied to a large least square system. In doing so, he demonstrates how he achieves a significant speedup when using the matrix reordering algorithm of METIS/ParMETIS (which is a multilevel nested dissection). So it seems that METIS is able to compute an effective column reordering of rectangular matrices for fill-reducing factorizations. The respective slide of the talk is also available as a screenshot under:

https://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/answers/uploaded_files/173888/image.png

(extracted from a forum post on a similar topic: https://de.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/answers/275622-large-sparse-rectangular-over-determined-equation-system-to-reorder-or-to-not-reorder)

Considering that PETSc is offering a wrapper to the partitioning functionalities of ParMETIS, I am wondering, if it might be reasonable in the near future to also provide an option to use the reordering functionality of METIS (METIS_NodeND/ParMETIS_V3_NodeND) from within PETSc? That would be incredible and may be useful to many applications. I've just seen that MatGetOrdering() even provides an option for external libraries (MATORDERINGEXTERNAL). Is it maybe already possible to use the function in conjuction with ParMETIS?

Best regards,
Marcel


Am 22.10.20 um 11:55 schrieb Matthew Knepley:
On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 4:24 AM Marcel Huysegoms <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Hi all,

    I'm currently implementing a Gauss-Newton approach for minimizing a
    non-linear cost function using PETSc4py.
    The (rectangular) linear systems I am trying to solve have
    dimensions of
    about (5N, N), where N is in the range of several hundred millions.

    Due to its size and because it's an over-determined system, I use LSQR
    in conjunction with a preconditioner (which operates on A^T x A, e.g.
    BJacobi).
    Depending on the ordering of the unknowns the algorithm only converges
    for special cases. When I use a direct LR solver (as
    preconditioner) it
    consistently converges, but consumes too much memory. I have read
    in the
    manual that the LR solver internally also applies a matrix reordering
    beforehand.

    My question would be:
    How can I improve the ordering of the unknowns for a rectangular
    matrix
    (in order to converge also with iterative preconditioners)? If I use
    MatGetOrdering(), it only works for square matrices. Is there a way to
    achieve this from within PETSc4py?
    ParMETIS seems to be a promising framework for that task. Is it
    possible
    to apply its reordering algorithm to a rectangular PETSc-matrix?

    I would be thankful for every bit of advice that might help.


We do not have any rectangular reordering algorithms. I think your first step is to
find something in the literature that you think will work.

  Thanks,

     Matt

    Best regards,
    Marcel


    
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