On Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 01:59:57PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> so u said that u could inject bad things on some level to give trouble and 
> shake
> on stp ?

This is right, you can have fun with most L2 protocols out there
check out http://www.yersinia.net/ for instance.


> Selon Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > * Russell Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-10-25 10:09]:
> > > Henning Brauer wrote:
> > > > so get a little transfer net and make your upstream adjust his routes
> > > >
> > > > otherwise you need a bridge indeed, but you really want to avoid that
> > > > if you have a chance to go for regular routed with carp etc.
> > > we also run redundant bridges -- we have two physical paths to our ISP
> > > only one of which is ever in use.  We have bridges on both these link
> > > and use pfsync to share state.  The network uses STP to fail the traffic
> > > between the links.   Works well for us.
> >
> > I have never said it does not work. Heck, bridge & (r)stp on OpenBSD
> > are probably better than on most OSes out there.
> > BUT: I hate bridges. They make debugging really darn hard, and come
> > with their own set of problems. (r)stp you cannot run in any remotely
> > secure fashion without filters on the switches (to be honest, you need
> > the same for carp, but there it isn't THAT a disaster because carp uses
> > some crypto, (r)stp does not)
> >
> > --
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