Dear Oskar,

I think you never get my previous mail, so I reply to myself :) [ my IMAP/SMTP servers are really buggy for the moment]
After I read Andreas' post on wx-users and the replies which were sent to him, I finally tested pgAdmin3 under enlghtenment on debian/unstable. Fonts are really horrible! :)
What was suggested on wx-users was to edit your ~/.gtkrc-2.0 and add something like this:


<-------- cut here ------------->
style "defaultfont"
{
font_name = "Arial 10"
}
widget_class "*" style "defaultfont"
<-------- cut here ------------->

I tried it and it worked for me... It looks close to what I can see with a full gnome desktop.
Please also have a look to /usr/share/doc/enlightenment/README.Debian, there is information concerning fonts in debian enlightenment implementation.


You can find the entire thread on wx-users list at:
http://lists.wxwindows.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?8:mss:44237:200309:jgdnbjmpiagpccbpjnpb

Andreas, IMHO we may add some informations regarding this in a FAQ ?
I may also add a screen to the debian package with debconf so that people are warned of such problems while installing the package. What's your opinion ?


My last (should I say lost!) mail follow ;)

Regards,

Rapha�l


Rapha�l Enrici wrote:


Oskar Berggren wrote:

On Sun, 2003-09-07 at 21:48, Rapha�l Enrici wrote:


Oskar Berggren wrote:


I did not use the x-window-system package. I don't remember exactly
what I did, it was several years ago, but I believe I just pulled
in the packages manually. There has been two major upgrades
concerning the X-packages on my installation, I think. From 4.0 -> 4.1
and then 4.1 -> 4.2. Manually upgraded (using apt-get).
I'm using evolution, and nothing fancy. I have never changed any
Gnome preferences, if that's what you mean, at least not knowingly.
At the moment I'm actually not sure how/where to change them.


Ok, I'm not telling that you did something wrong, I just want to get the most information that I can so that we can try to figure out what's wrong with these fonts... May be I did something wrong when I built the package (I build them in a small chrooted environment...).


Hmm, you seem to think that I became annoyed with you... Maybe I'm
seeing things that aren't there, but anyway, just so there is no
confusion: That was/is not the case, although when I read what I wrote
I suppose there is room for interpretation.  :-)


No problem with me :). I really appreciate the time you give to testing and your answers were really fast. I just didn't want to hurt you with questions that can look stupid ;)


Can you just tell me what the fonts are if you go in "Applications->Desktop Preferences->Font".
The window should tell you what your preferences are for Application, Desktop, window title and Terminal Font. On my workstation, "Application font" really change the way pgAdmin3 appears.

What I meant to say above was that I'm using Enlightenment. The word 'Evolution' must have come from a temporary brain shortcircuit or something. :)

Oh yes 'Enlightenment', I thought you were saying that other apps (like evolution) were looking nice :)

 Therefore I do not have the menus you are referring
to, and I did not at the time know where the setting was actually
stored. I have however done some research, and from what I gather
using gconftool-2, the setting was "Sans", 10pt, which at least on my
system looks suspicously similar to "Bitstream Vera Sans". For two
reasons I don't think that setting was actually used:
  1. Changing it to something else did not have any effect.
     Tried abiword, gnumeric, pgadmin3, file-roller... no effect.
  2. What was actually used looked bigger than 10pt.

I did the following experiment: I installed gnome-session and some
other necessary packages and logged on as a different user, that
was configured to use a gnome environment. Now the setting did seem
to have an effect, in that environment. Changing it definately changed
the font used by pgadmin3 (and abiword, gnumeric, etc...). When logged
on as my normal user (using enlightenment) the setting seems to be
ignored again.

Even though I could get the application to use a smaller font, there
was still problems with missing space, though I did not make a really
thorough investigation of that at the time, as I did not have time.
One thing I did notice is that frame with the debug level settings in
the option dialog is strangely aligned and even jumps aroung a bit,
depending on font/fontsize. Attached is a screenshot showing how this
looks when using Enlightement. That problem was there when logged on
using gnome-session etc. as well.


I didn't received the screenshot.
Today Andreas posted something concerning the fonts and the way they are handled by wxWindows to the wx-users list. Firsts replies seem to refer to gtk2 and its gtkrc files. So, it seems that the settings we are looking for may be found in global gtkrc-2.0 or in users' one.
I did a test as root user in my unstable chrooted environment and here is the list of files that were looked for:
/etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc
/root/.gtkrc-2.0
/root/.themes/Simple/gtk-2.0/gtkrc
/usr/share/themes/Simple/gtk-2.0/gtkrc
/root/.themes/Default/gtk-2.0-key/gtkrc
/usr/share/themes/Default/gtk-2.0-key/gtkrc
/usr/share/themes/Default/gtk-2.0-key/gtkrc
/usr/share/themes/Default/gtk-2.0-key/gtkrc


Another thing I noticed is the link with fontconfig library (fc-list, fc-cache commands).

When you'll have more time can you please send me the results of a strace on pgadmin3 (the command I use is: 'strace -f pgadmin3') in your two environments (I mean enlightenment and gnome one) ? and may be have a look to your gtkrc files ?
In the next days, I'll try to reproduce the problem you mentionned in a full debian unstable environment based on the dpkg --get-selections you sent to me yesterday.


One more time, thank you for your answers. I really hope we'll figure out what's going on.

Best,

Rapha�l

Can you also send me a 'xlsfonts' ?


Attached.


Regards,
Oskar




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