Well, I’ve 2 x full hd, not a 4k. So, it is not the same problem we are talking about. Anyway, as posted before (sent a screenshot), pgAdmin 4 is the only app with problems. It is unfortunate this will not be investigated further, because it is impossible to work on a tool that you can’t read.
Thanks for all you effort anyway. Edson Richter Enviado do Email<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> para Windows 10 ________________________________ De: Dave Page <dp...@pgadmin.org> Enviado: Monday, December 18, 2017 12:18:44 PM Para: Edson Richter Cc: Pgadmin-Support@Postgresql. Org Assunto: Re: Faded text in pgAdmin 4 2.0/Win Server 2008r2 On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 5:46 PM, Edson Richter <edsonrich...@hotmail.com<mailto:edsonrich...@hotmail.com>> wrote: See attached image for your reference... Just to reinforce, this happens only with PgAdmin4. All other apps run fine (native legacy apps, .Net apps, Java apps). So I tried with the following: Windows Server 2008r2 Enterprise on the server Windows 10 Pro on the client (running on a laptop with a 4K screen) I found that event Windows Server itself doesn't play nicely with the 4K screen on the client - the Start Menu and other tools display exactly as your screenshots show pgAdmin does until I finally figured out that 200% scaling on the terminal services client largely makes that go away. Unfortunately, it doesn't make it go away in pgAdmin - nor in Google Chrome which also seems to display fonts on websites with varying degrees of fading and poor quality. At this point I'm fairly well convinced that this is an issue with Windows 2008r2's lack of support for modern hi-res displays over RDP, possibly coupled with quirks of QtWebKit (for which there have been similar reports of font rendering issues). Given that it works fine in Windows 2012 and later and the fact that none of the rendering code is ours, I'm afraid it's unlikely that this will be fixed. Regards, Edson Richter Enviado do Email<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgo.microsoft.com%2Ffwlink%2F%3FLinkId%3D550986&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cff4c441990d1423e638708d546224029%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636492035272423229&sdata=TTgVCU9dAVK6bHrLv1KHh04Tg%2By650DtCVGVylH8UYc%3D&reserved=0> para Windows 10 ________________________________ De: Edson Richter <edsonrich...@hotmail.com<mailto:edsonrich...@hotmail.com>> Enviado: Friday, December 1, 2017 3:34:05 PM Para: Dave Page Cc: Pgadmin-Support@Postgresql. Org Assunto: RES: Faded text in pgAdmin 4 2.0/Win Server 2008r2 I’ve made some futher analisys of the problem, and found that text becomes even worse if I’m using RDS with 16bit colors. I’ve checked and our server is limited to 24 bit colors. Maybe this is somehow related. Regards, Edson Enviado do Email<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgo.microsoft.com%2Ffwlink%2F%3FLinkId%3D550986&data=02%7C01%7Cedsonrichter%40hotmail.com%7C0f2373d3290a4291d8c008d538e1c178%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636477464621270447&sdata=CD7PjVmTG1053sUJy5U%2FCuQqKNFb6VE8XB5cptBYb%2Bc%3D&reserved=0> para Windows 10 ________________________________ De: Dave Page <dp...@pgadmin.org<mailto:dp...@pgadmin.org>> Enviado: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 2:29:34 PM Para: Edson Richter Cc: Pgadmin-Support@Postgresql. Org Assunto: Re: Faded text in pgAdmin 4 2.0/Win Server 2008r2 On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Dave Page <dp...@pgadmin.org<mailto:dp...@pgadmin.org>> wrote: Quick update on this - no matter what interface we tried, my Windows PC (which claims to support 4K) refused to talk to a 4K monitor. We've therefore ordered a Windows laptop with 4K display. I'm travelling for the next week, but hopefully it should be here when I get back... And it works just fine with Windows 10 on the 4K display, connecting to Windows 2012. I think the only other notable environment difference is Windows 2012r2 vs. Windows 2008r2, so my next step is to get that installed... On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Dave Page <dp...@pgadmin.org<mailto:dp...@pgadmin.org>> wrote: Thanks. FYI, I'm now trying to test with a Windows 10 PC as the client, on a hi-dpi screen. Typically though, the PC and screen are refusing to talk to each other right now :-(. If that works, I'll have to dig out a copy of Windows 2008. On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Edson Richter <edsonrich...@hotmail.com<mailto:edsonrich...@hotmail.com>> wrote: Also found another reference: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41315873/attempting-to-resolve-blurred-tkinter-text-scaling-on-windows-10-high-dpi-disp<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstackoverflow.com%2Fquestions%2F41315873%2Fattempting-to-resolve-blurred-tkinter-text-scaling-on-windows-10-high-dpi-disp&data=02%7C01%7Cedsonrichter%40hotmail.com%7Ce6269eb64fea4b9d257f08d5367d3a4b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636474833831559548&sdata=vhQeYqo8nlC%2BPo7jqEvtjTvc8lB1zBYVgr0AODDRfVY%3D&reserved=0> Regards, Edson Enviado do Email<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgo.microsoft.com%2Ffwlink%2F%3FLinkId%3D550986&data=02%7C01%7Cedsonrichter%40hotmail.com%7Ce6269eb64fea4b9d257f08d5367d3a4b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636474833831559548&sdata=ovmyKSEsJhkR%2F3nNFGkEqpNezMJV%2BJTfiYBnJhvucNQ%3D&reserved=0> para Windows 10 De: Edson Richter<mailto:edsonrich...@hotmail.com> Enviado:quarta-feira, 18 de outubro de 2017 08:06 Para: Pgadmin-Support@Postgresql. Org<mailto:pgadmin-supp...@postgresql.org> Assunto: RES: Faded text in pgAdmin 4 2.0/Win Server 2008r2 De: Dave Page<mailto:dp...@pgadmin.org> Enviado:quarta-feira, 18 de outubro de 2017 06:59 Para: Edson Richter<mailto:edsonrich...@hotmail.com> Cc:Pgadmin-Support@Postgresql. Org<mailto:pgadmin-supp...@postgresql.org> Assunto: Re: Faded text in pgAdmin 4 2.0/Win Server 2008r2 Hi On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 11:50 AM, Edson Richter <edsonrich...@hotmail.com<mailto:edsonrich...@hotmail.com>> wrote: Thanks for your quick answer! If have anything I can test for you, would be my pleasure. I've tried this here with Windows 2012 R2 Datacenter at the server, and Microsoft Remote Desktop 8.0.43 on macOS 10.12.6, and everything looks fine for me. Remote Desktop is running at 1600x1000 in 24bit colour. What exactly are you running on the client and server? Server: Windows Server 2008 r2 x64 running over VMWare ESXi 6, 24Gb RAM, 8 core on Dell r420. Client: Desktop Hp Pavilion Mini 300-201br Intel Core I3 4gb, Windows 10 Home x64 and Intel HD Graphics 5000 Software config: - On server: Remote Desktop Services (nothing special here). Allows everything except audio. - On client: Remote Desktop, 32 bit colour, full screen, “all monitors” (I’ve 2 x LG 24” 1920x1080, 59Hz), no sound, no printer, enable background, enable smooth font, enable desktop composition, enable visual styles, enable bitmap cache, enable reconnect, connection type low velocity broadband (256Kbps-2Mbps). I believe the problem is related to DPI in my monitor (currently, Windows 10 allows me to choose 100% - which I use – or other scales, like 125%, 150%, even 200% or custom up to 500%). I’ve found a interesting article about DPI in Windows (it is a mess, I know): http://kynosarges.org/WindowsDpi.html<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fkynosarges.org%2FWindowsDpi.html&data=02%7C01%7Cedsonrichter%40hotmail.com%7C72e3529ae85344b207d008d5160ff6ab%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636439180169696932&sdata=iHfuZL4vR0DyDsn5hA5NYr5dTY9ZuR2EDCUcbkYu3rY%3D&reserved=0> I hope all this info helps. Notice that pgAdmin4 is the only app suffering of this wierd behavior (pgAdmin3 works fine, as well hundreds of other apps). Edson. Regards, Edson Richter Enviado do Email<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgo.microsoft.com%2Ffwlink%2F%3FLinkId%3D550986&data=02%7C01%7Cedsonrichter%40hotmail.com%7Cac73b5af7c1e40c52c1008d5160698f3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636439139939794542&sdata=L0bQ%2FxDLQv%2BoBaDGFl1EREva80K3qwTFgw9YWlRiX70%3D&reserved=0> para Windows 10 De: Dave Page<mailto:dp...@pgadmin.org> Enviado:terça-feira, 17 de outubro de 2017 08:48 Para: Edson Richter<mailto:edsonrich...@hotmail.com> Cc:Pgadmin-Support@Postgresql. Org<mailto:pgadmin-supp...@postgresql.org> Assunto: Re: Faded text in pgAdmin 4 2.0/Win Server 2008r2 Looking at this is on my TODO, however I'm currently having issues spinning up a Windows Server VM which are holding things up. On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Edson Richter <edsonrich...@hotmail.com<mailto:edsonrich...@hotmail.com>> wrote: Must be something wrong in my setup: Windows Server 2008 r2 TS, acessing with two Full HD 24" monitors in 32bit color depth., themes disabled, font smoothing enabled, composition enabled, visual effects disabled. I just can't read texts... They are "faded". See attached screenshot for reference. I'll appreciate your help. 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