On Mon, 29 May 2006 14:57:15 +1000
Tim Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Russell Davie wrote:
> > On Sun, 28 May 2006 20:59:33 -0400 Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >> There is no such error message anywhere in the PG 7.4 source code. 
> >> I suppose it's coming out of whatever init script you're using; 
> >> have you tried reading the init script for enlightenment?
> 
> > Interesting! I never thought it could be the window manager. This is
> > still occurring using Metacity and it still happened in Enlightnement
> > and WindowMaker and also at CLI without any window-manager at all!
> 
> I'm quite sure that Tom was referring to enlightenment in the general 
> sense of the word, ie some init script (eg the one for the postgresql 
> service) might enlighten you as to what is going on! :-)

thanks for that! <doh>
I *was* wondering what he meant and found the error message in start-up script 
/usr/share/postgresql-common/PgCommon.pm

Reading the script suggests that the user to be a member of the "shadow" group, 
which is now done.
However, postgresql is still not starting and produces the same errors:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ /etc/init.d/postgresql-7.4 start
chmod: changing permissions of `/var/run/postgresql': Operation not permitted
 * Starting PostgreSQL 7.4 database server:main
Error: Could not change user id                                     [fail]

Are there special privileges that the "shadow" group has?

What is eluding me is decyphering it into practical steps to getting postgresql 
working again.

TIA 

Rusell

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> Tim
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