On Wed, 28 May 2008 18:37:06 -0700
"Medi Montaseri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I am faced with a database disapperance and seeking some explanations
> outside of gremlins.
> I had a database running at
> 
> cat /etc/sysconfig/pgsl/postmaster
> PGDATA=/qmsvol/pg_8.1.9/data
> PGLOG=/var/log/pgsql/pgstartup.log
> 
> Where /qmsvol is an iSCSI block device
> A couple of days ago, my server was rebooted and by the time I got to it my
> database was deleted, gone, zapped, not there any more.
> 
> I looked at my pgstartup.log where I see the following....
> 
> postmaster cannot access the server configuration file
> "/qmsvol/pg_8.1.9/postgresql.conf": Permission denied
> over 17 times and then following by...
> The database cluster will be initialized with locale en_US.UTF-8.
> 
> I think the following happend...
> Since my PGDATA was on an iSCSI device, by the time /etc/rc3.d/S64postgresql
> was executed, the device below it was not available.....question...why the
> error says "permission denied" vs "file not found".  In the meantime, pg_ctl
> kept trying and finally concluded that the data directory is blank, and
> hence this must be a out-of-box case and he is good to initdb the PGDATA and
> as it called initdb to do the job... the iSCSI volume below it came online
> and by then the bomb had already been dropped.
> 
> Now I need to find some facts to support this...
When you mount a partition on linux, it does this by overlaying it's root 
directory with the existing one on the parent volume. Ownerships and 
permissions are also replaced. I expect that the /qmsvol directory will be 
owned by root, with fairly restrictive access rights. This will not be the case 
the root ( . ) directory on the external device, which will be 
postgres-friendly.
> Where else can I look for forensics
I don't think you need any more! To fix this, I'd do 2 things. First, start 
postgres much later in the boot sequence:
  cd /etc/rc3.d ; mv S64postgresql S99postgresql
( and the same in rc5.d if you're using a gui at all ).

and do the converse to whichever script mounts your external devices. Also add 
in a test that the device is mounted in the start) block of 
/etc/init.d/postgresql... something simple like
        
        while [ ! -d /qmsvol/pg_8.1.9/data ]
        do
                sleep 5
        done

( well, something that can't hang forever would be preferable! ).
        
> 
> Thanks
> Medi
> 

hth,

Steve

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Steve Holdoway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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