On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 4:16 PM Tom Lane <t...@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote: > [ Let's try to trim this discussion to just -general, please ] > > Robert Eckhardt <reckha...@pivotal.io> writes: > > On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Adrian Klaver > > <adrian.kla...@aklaver.com> wrote: > >> On 9/14/18 1:31 AM, Chris Travers wrote: > >>> I really have to object to this addition: > >>>> "This Code is meant to cover all interaction between community > members, > >>>> whether or not it takes place within postgresql.org < > http://postgresql.org> > >>>> infrastructure, so long as there is not another Code of Conduct that > takes > >>>> precedence (such as a conference's Code of Conduct)." > > >> I second that objection. It is not in PGDG's remit to cure the world, > for > >> whatever form of cure you ascribe to. This is especially true as > 'community > >> member' has no strict definition. > > > I understand the concern, however, if you look at how attacks happen > > it is frequently through other sites. Specifically under/poorly > > moderated sites. For specific examples, people who have issues with > > people on Quora will frequently go after them on Facebook and Twitter. > > Actually, that addition was in response to concerns that the previous > version didn't delimit the intended scope of the document *at all*. > So I would say it's more restricted now than the previous version. > > I feel that most of the concerns being raised today are straw men. > If the PG lists were a place for political discussion, there'd be > valid points to worry about as to whether a CoC might be used to > stifle free speech. But every example that's been given has been > not merely off-topic but wildly so, so I don't find the discussion > to be very realistic. >
If the code of conduct limited conduct that related to postgresql.org infrastructure, I would agree. This one explicitly includes all kinds of interactions which are beyond that. I assume "all interaction between members" could include having a few beers at a pub, or being in an argument over the scope of human rights on facebook, and I think there are people who will read it that way. -- Best Wishes, Chris Travers Efficito: Hosted Accounting and ERP. Robust and Flexible. No vendor lock-in. http://www.efficito.com/learn_more
