On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 11:31 PM Bruce Momjian <br...@momjian.us> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 11:24:29AM +1000, Julian Paul wrote: > > It's overly long and convoluted. > > > > "inclusivity" Is a ideologue buzzword of particular individuals that > offer > > very little value apart from excessive policing of speech and behaviour > > assumed to be a problem where none exist. > > > > "Personal attacks and negative comments on personal characteristics are > > unacceptable, and will not be permitted. Examples of personal > > characteristics include, but are not limited to age, race, national > origin > > or ancestry, religion, gender, or sexual orientation." > > > > So just leaving it at "Personal attacks" and ending it there won't do > > obviously. I'm a big advocate of people sorting out there own personal > > disputes in private but... > > > > "further personal attacks (public or *private*);" > > > > ...lets assume people don't have the maturity for that and make it all > > public. > > > > "may be considered offensive by fellow members" - Purely subjective and > > irrelevant to a piece of community software. > > You might notice that a bullet list was removed and those example items > were added 18 months ago: > > > https://wiki.postgresql.org/index.php?title=Code_of_Conduct&diff=31924&oldid=29402 > > I realize that putting no examples has its attractions, but some felt > that having examples would be helpful. I am not a big fan of the > "protected groups" concept because it is often exploited, which is why > they are listed more as examples. > I suspect most of us could probably get behind the groups listed in the antidiscrimination section of the European Charter of Fundamental Rights at least as a compromise. Quoting the English version: "Any discrimination based on any ground such as sex, race, colour, ethnic or social origin, genetic features, language, religion or belief, political or any other opinion, membership of a national minority, property, birth, disability, age or sexual orientation shall be prohibited." The inclusion of "political or any other opinion" is a nice addition and prevents a lot of concern. > > -- > Bruce Momjian <br...@momjian.us> http://momjian.us > EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com > > + As you are, so once was I. As I am, so you will be. + > + Ancient Roman grave inscription + > > -- Best Wishes, Chris Travers Efficito: Hosted Accounting and ERP. Robust and Flexible. No vendor lock-in. http://www.efficito.com/learn_more