> On Jul 7, 2019, at 6:29 PM, Rob Sargent <robjsarg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> O
>>>>>> Sorry, maybe my question wasn't clear enough.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A query can be rewritten in various ways by applying rules and costs of
>>>>>> relational algebra operators, as well as their parallelisation. I am
>>>>>> talking about turning off this query optimization, so I am already
>>>>>> assuming that indexes aren't present.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Have you played with any of these settings?
>>>>> 
>>>>> postgres=# select version();
>>>>>                                                  version
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>  PostgreSQL 10.7 on x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, compiled by gcc (GCC) 4.8.5 
>>>>> 20150623 (Red Hat 4.8.5-36), 64-bit
>>>>> (1 row)
>>>>> 
>>>>> postgres=# select name, setting, unit,short_desc from pg_settings where 
>>>>> name ~ 'para';
>>>>>               name               | setting | unit |                       
>>>>>                       short_desc
>>>>> ---------------------------------+---------+------+----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>  force_parallel_mode             | off     |      | Forces use of 
>>>>> parallel query facilities.
>>>>>  max_parallel_workers            | 16      |      | Sets the maximum 
>>>>> number of parallel workers that can be active at one time.
>>>>>  max_parallel_workers_per_gather | 8       |      | Sets the maximum 
>>>>> number of parallel processes per executor node.
>>>>>  min_parallel_index_scan_size    | 64      | 8kB  | Sets the minimum 
>>>>> amount of index data for a parallel scan.
>>>>>  min_parallel_table_scan_size    | 1024    | 8kB  | Sets the minimum 
>>>>> amount of table data for a parallel scan.
>>>>>  parallel_setup_cost             | 1000    |      | Sets the planner's 
>>>>> estimate of the cost of starting up worker processes for parallel query.
>>>>>  parallel_tuple_cost             | 0.1     |      | Sets the planner's 
>>>>> estimate of the cost of passing each tuple (row) from worker to master 
>>>>> backend.
>>>>>  ssl_dh_params_file              |         |      | Location of the SSL 
>>>>> DH parameters file.
>>>>> (8 rows)
>>>>> 
>>>> Well not the last one of course.
>>> 
>>> Better yet, “where category ~* ‘planner’"
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> Yes, I've taken a look. I'm just interested in turning off the whole 
>> module and there is no parameter to do just that - an on and off switch 
>> - from what I can understand. What I can do instead is to go over the 
>> entire list of parameters and configure them each to generate a bad 
>> plan, but I'm not sure in general how to make a configuration which 
>> gives me the worst plan possible under all situations.
>> 
>> I was hoping that someone has the on/off switch I'm looking for or a 
>> parameter template which has been used for the same purpose or something 
>> along these lines...
>> 
>> This document describes the module I'm talking about: 
>> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/planner-optimizer.html 
>> <https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/planner-optimizer.html>
> Yeah, I guess I read that to say postgres will optimize generically (after 
> geqo_threshold). Now maybe that’s the worst plan? Per force a lot of 
> seq-scans in the absence of any indices.  And if it isn’t the worst possible 
> plan, so what, you’re using postgres, you won’t get a worse plan without 
> lying to the optimizer.
> But I’m clearly in over my head.  The pros will be along shortly, I’m sure.

And I didn’t notice I had pasted a url to a git project. Totally irrelevant to 
the issue at hand.  My apologies.


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