På onsdag 03. juni 2020 kl. 20:07:24, skrev Chris Travers <
chris.trav...@gmail.com <mailto:chris.trav...@gmail.com>>: 


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Regardless of what Oracle does, I agree this would be a huge step in the right 
direction for pg-DBAs. 
I have absolutely no clue about how much work is required etc., but I think 
it's kind of strange that no companies have invested in making this happen. 

I manage database clusters where the number of databases is a reason not to do 
logical replication based upgrades, where pg_upgrade is far preferred instead. 

If this were to be the case, I would be very concerned that a bunch of things 
would have to change: 
1. Shared catalogs would have txid problems unless you stay with global txids 
and then how do local wal streams work there? 
2. Possibility that suddenly streaming replication has the possibility of 
different databases having different amounts of lag 
3. Problems with io management on WAL on high throughput systems (I have 
systems where a db cluster generates 10-20TB of WAL per day) 

So I am not at all sure this would be a step in the right direction or worth 
the work. 

I agree these are all technical issues, but nevertheless - "implementation 
details", which DBAs don't care about. What's important from a DBA's 
perspective is not whether WAL is cluster-wide or database-wide, but whether 
it's possible to manage backups/PITR/restores of individual databases in a more 
convenient matter, which other RDBMS-vendors seem to provide. 

I love PG, have been using it professionally since 6.5, and our company 
depends on it, but there are things other RDBMS-vendors do better... 


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 Andreas Joseph Krogh 

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