The relevant Unicode reference is 
https://unicode.org/faq/casemap_charprop.html#11

Which basically says that since Unicode 5.0 (its now at Unicode 15.0) stability 
is guaranteed and the upper-casing to  (U+1E9E ẞ LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S)  
is optional.

> On 14 Mar 2023, at 9:12 pm, Philip Semanchuk <phi...@americanefficient.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 13, 2023, at 5:38 PM, Celia McInnis <celia.mcin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> HI:
>> 
>> I would be really happy if postgresql  had an upper case version of the ß 
>> german character. The wiki page 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9F
>> 
>> indicates that the capital (U+1E9E ẞ LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S) was 
>> encoded by ISO 10646 in 2008.
>> 
>> BTW the reason that I'd like upper('ß') to give something different than 'ß' 
>>  is because I have written a simple substitution puzzle for a large number 
>> of languages where I show the encrypted lower case words in upper case and 
>> the successful letter substitution submissions in lower case - so I need the 
>> upper and lower case versions of each letter to be different!
>> 
>> Thanks for any assistance! Maybe I can hack what I want in python (which is 
>> what I am using for the puzzle).
> 
> Hi Celia,
> I ran into this too back when we were transitioning from Python 2 to 3 (2 
> behaved differently from 3). While researching it I discovered this Python 
> issue which maybe sheds some additional light on the subject: 
> https://github.com/python/cpython/issues/74993 
> <https://github.com/python/cpython/issues/74993>
> 
> We ultimately found 90 characters that (under Python 3) grew longer when 
> uppercased. 
> 
> python -c "print([c for c in range(0x80, 0x22ff) if len(chr(c)) != 
> len(chr(c).upper())])”
> 
> 
> I hope this is at least interesting. :-)
> 
> Cheers
> Philip

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