here is the info. seems it's Hannu's fault :-)
hope helps.
Kai
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>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Mar 29 17:03:40 2000
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 00:15:34 -0600 (CST)
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To: Hannu Krosing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Marten Feldtmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
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Subject: Re: [SQL] Re: [HACKERS] Proposed Changes to PostgreSQL
1) free is freedom, not free bear ;-) also, there are some sites
has oql draft -- like sql draft. sorry, can not remember.
2) good books, like " C++ object databases" (David Jordan) has
a lot material.
3) a lot of OODBM evaluation copy there. Not totally complied, but
together with 1 and 2, still can see what is going on.
so, no excuse for not knowing oodbm/oql :-) -- I'm waiting for
trying them on pg .
On Sat, 5 Feb 2000, Hannu Krosing wrote:
> Chris wrote:
> >
> > > One very good point is the query language of the
> > > rdbms systems. On the odbms side no standard is
> > > really available, which can be seen as the sql of
> > > the odbms.
> >
> > There is a standard called OQL which is very similar to SQL. It's just
> > rather poorly supported.
> >
>
> I think the operative word here is "available". I know that SQL specs
> are'nt freely available either, but due to SQL being already widely
> supported one can get the general idea from many freely available sources,
> like the bunch of freely downloadable DB's currently available for linux.
> Most of them have some docs included.
>
> It is still quite a job to reconstruct SQL92 from them ;)
>
> I know now description (except a BNF syntax available from some ODBMS website)
> that I could use to get some idea about OQL.
>
> ----------------------
> Hannu
>
> ************
>
On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
> Please give me a date or the name of the thread, as archive research function
> seems to be broken, and i've seen OODB in any subject header for mars or
> february.
>
>
> Le mer, 29 mar 2000, vous avez écrit :
> > On Tue, 28 Mar 2000, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> >
> > > Guillaume Rousse writes:
> > >
> > > > But my first impression about Postgres advanced features is they are
> > > > mostly gadget, briefly exposed in the manual, and never used
> > > > elsewhere. That's just an impression, off course.
> > >
> > > My impression as well. What's even worse, some of the ~OO things in the
> > > manuals (or not) don't even work {at all|any more|very well}. The current
> > > direction of PostgreSQL is to become an SQL database and assimilate
> > > whatever OODB stuff is functional into the SQL3 framework. If you want to
> > > play with real object-oriented databases then PostgreSQL is probably not
> > > the framework to use. :(
> > do not leave yet tho. please see the archive of this list, there is a
> > detailed discussion on real OODB about a month ago. If you really want to
> > do something and has time, please do bet on pg! pg is the best place to
> > invest.
> >
> > thanks.
> --
> Guillaume Rousse
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