Well no PHP is conceptual undisciplined and confusing. I would
not compare this with Postgresql itself which is very professional
developed with a great vision. PHP is just and always was a hack.

I didn't mean to compare PG and PHP at the level of engineering quality, but to suggest that perhaps both suffer from people continuing to hold rigid preconceptions about them based on how things were 5 or 10 years ago.

Anyway, while I'm quite happy to continue banging out things that "just work" in PHP for the time being, you suggest (in a subsequent post) that there is one scripting language in particular that you'd use ... might I enquire which language that is, and why? Just curious, I'm definitely not looking for an ideological debate.

Re the possible heightened level of animosity to PHP in PG circles, if it exists, could it have anything to do with PHP's close association with MySql? The animosity, by the way, seems to go both ways, I think I saw something about Rasmus Lerdorf bagging PostgreSQL on Slashdot(?) recently. Personally, I'm not overly concerned either way. I'm happy to leave the academic debates to those with the time to pursue them.

I'm the first to admit I know little about the art and science of relational database design and admin. But up to this point, I haven't needed to. It doesn't take rocket science to store and retrieve some text for a few web pages in a database.

Anyway, this is proving an interesting, lively and helpful community, hope to learn lots more about doing things the PostgreSQL way ... with PHP :-).

Mick

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