On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Thom Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>  * Forcing it to shutdown which leads to a recover-run on next startup.
> pg_ctl: PID file "/var/lib/postgresql/8.3/data/postmaster.pid" does not exist
> Is server running?
>  * Forced shutdown failed!!! Something is wrong with your system,
> please take care of it manually.
>               [ ok ]
>  * Starting PostgreSQL ...
> waiting for server to
> start...............................................................could
> not start server                                        [ !! ]
>  * The pid-file doesn't exist but pg_ctl reported a running server.
>  * Please check whether there is another server running on the same
> port or read the log-file.

At this point did you do something like:

ps ax|grep postgres

???

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