All, Came across a Gartner/Tech Republic research piece on object support in Oracle 8: http://www.techrepublic.com/download_item.jhtml?id=dr00220001002jim01.htm You need to register for the site, but it's free. I'd be happy to email the PDF to anyone individually as well. Anyone know what's new in the new 9i? Regards, Ned ---------------------------------------------------- Ned Lilly e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vice President w: www.greatbridge.com Evangelism / Hacker Relations v: 757.233.5523 Great Bridge, LLC f: 757.233.5555