On Dec 4, 2011, at 22:58, Maxim Boguk <maxim.bo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 2:45 PM, David Johnston <pol...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Dec 4, 2011, at 22:28, Maxim Boguk <maxim.bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi.
> >
> > Is here any way to combine WITH and WITH RECURSIVE into single query?
> >
> > Something like:
> >
> > WITH t AS (some complicated select to speed up recursive part),
> > RECURSIVE r AS
> > (
> > ...
> > UNION ALL
> > ...
> > )
> >
> > ?
> >
> > --
> > Maxim Boguk
> > Senior Postgresql DBA.
> 
> WITH RECURSIVE q1 As (), q2 AS () ...
> 
> Add RECURSIVE after the WITH; it then applies to any/all the CTEs.
> 
> Look at the specification (and description) in the SELECT documentation 
> closely.
> 
> David J.
> 
> Trouble is I trying to precalculate some data through WITH syntax (non 
> recursive).
> To be used later in WITH RECURSIVE part (and keep a single of that data 
> instead of N).
> 
> Something like:
> 
> WITH _t AS (some complicated select to speed up recursive part),
> RECURSIVE r AS 
> (
>      ...
> UNION ALL
>     SELECT * FROM r
>     JOIN t ON ...
> )
> 
> So I need have precalculated t table before I start an iterator.
> 
> Now instead of _t  I using record[] + unnest  but that appoach very memory 
> hungry for long iterations:
> 
> WITH RECURSIVE r AS 
> (
>       SELECT ...
>           ARRAY(SELECT ROW(t.*) FROM some complicated select to speed up 
> recursive part) as _t_array
>       FROM ...
> 
> UNION ALL
>       SELECT
>           ...,
>           _t_array
>       FROM r
>       JOIN (unnest(_t_array) ...)  ON something
> )
> 
> However that approach lead to having copy of the _t_array per each final row, 
> so can use a lot of memory.
> 
> PS: Yes I know about pl/pgsql but WITH RECURSIVE iterators can give 2-10 time 
> performance gains over implemenation of the same algorythm inside pl/pgsql.
> 
> -- 
> Maxim Boguk
> Senior Postgresql DBA.

Read the documentation closely, the syntax definition for WITH is precise and 
accurate.

No matter how many queries you want to create you write the word WITH one time. 
 If ANY of your queries require iterative behavior you put the word RECURSIVE 
after the word WITH.  Between individual queries you may only put the name, and 
optional column alias, along with the required comma.

As a side benefit to adding RECURSIVE the order in which the queries appear is 
no longer relevant.  Without RECURSIVE you indeed must list the queries in 
order of use.

David J.


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