On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 3:55 AM, Karsten Hilbert <karsten.hilb...@gmx.net>
wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 07, 2015 at 06:57:45AM -0500, John McKown wrote:
>
> > >>> >at a bare minimum, a database administrator needs to create database
> > >>> >roles (users) and databases for an app like yours.
> > >>>
> > >> The admin don't need to create the db. It is done by the application
> > >> (sqlalchemy-utils on Python3) itself.
> > >>
> > >
> > > an application should not have the privileges to do that.   you don't
> run
> > > your apps as 'root', do you?   why would you run them as a database
> > > administrator ?
> >
> >
> > ​Trigger Warning (Thanks, Mallard Fillmore)
> >
> > I agree with you on this. If I were a customer and some vendor said: "Oh
> > yes, to run our product, you must configure your multi-user data base to
> > disable passwords and run it as a DBA so that it can make schema changes
> on
> > the fly", then I'd simply say "no sale". Of course, in regards to the
> > schema, it would be proper to document what the DBA needs to do to set up
> > the data base with the proper tables and other items.
>
> In fact, an app might have an option to emit a script for
> the DBA to run. Or even offer to run it for the DBA given
> proper credentials are provided on the spot.
>

​Yes, that's even better. Documentation to say what to do and why, and a
way to generate a script which the DBA can review, approve, & run is an
excellent way to do this.​



>
> Karsten Hilbert
>
>
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