On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 3:41 PM, Adrian Klaver <adrian.kla...@aklaver.com>
wrote:

> On 02/01/2016 12:36 PM, David G. Johnston wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 1:30 PM, Dane Foster <studdu...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:studdu...@gmail.com>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>     On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 2:56 PM, David G. Johnston
>>     <david.g.johns...@gmail.com <mailto:david.g.johns...@gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>         On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Adrian Klaver
>>         <adrian.kla...@aklaver.com <mailto:adrian.kla...@aklaver.com
>> >>wrote:
>>
>>
>>             On 02/01/2016 11:17 AM, Dane Foster wrote:
>>
>>                 Hello,
>>
>>                 I'm discovering that I need to write quite a few
>>                 functions for use
>>                 strictly w/ check constraints and I'm wondering if
>>                 declaring the
>>                 volatility category for said functions will affect their
>>                 behavior when
>>                 invoked by PostgreSQL's check constraint mechanism.
>>
>>
>>         ​Adrian's point is spot-on but the important thing to consider
>>         in this situation is that check constraints are assumed to be
>>         immutable and if you implement a check function that is not you
>>         don't get to complain what you see something broken.  The nature
>>         and use of an immutable check constraint only has a single
>>         dynamic - execute the function using the given values once for
>>         every record INSERT or UPDATE.  There is no reason, and I
>>         suspect there is no actual, attempt to even look at the
>>         volatility category of said function before performing those
>>         actions.  It is possible that two records inserted or updated in
>>         the same query could make use of the caching possibilities
>>         afforded by immutable functions but if so assume it is being
>>         done unconditionally.
>>
>>         David J.
>>
>>     ​Your point about ".. check ​constraints are assumed to be immutable
>>     ..", is that in the manual? Because I don't remember reading it in
>>     the constraints section, nor in the volatility categories section,
>>     nor in the server programming sections. Granted, I haven't read the
>>     whole manual yet nor do I have what I've read so far memorized, but
>>     I think that little fact would have struck a cord in my gray matter.
>>     So if you can point me to the spot in the manual where this is
>>     covered I would appreciate it.​
>>
>>
>>
>> ​http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.5/interactive/sql-createtable.html​
>> ​Second Paragraph​
>>
>> ​"""​
>>   CHECK ( expression ) [ NO INHERIT ]
>> The CHECK clause specifies an expression producing a Boolean result
>> which new or updated rows must satisfy for an insert or update operation
>> to succeed. Expressions evaluating to TRUE or UNKNOWN succeed. Should
>> any row of an insert or update operation produce a FALSE result, an
>> error exception is raised and the insert or update does not alter the
>> database. A check constraint specified as a column constraint should
>> reference that column's value only, while an expression appearing in a
>> table constraint can reference multiple columns.
>>
>> Currently, CHECK expressions cannot contain subqueries nor refer to
>> variables other than columns of the current row. The system column
>> tableoid may be referenced, but not any other system column.
>>
>> A constraint marked with NO INHERIT will not propagate to child tables.
>>
>> When a table has multiple CHECK constraints, they will be tested for
>> each row in alphabetical order by name, after checking NOT NULL
>> constraints. (PostgreSQL versions before 9.5 did not honor any
>> particular firing order for CHECK constraints.)
>> ​"""
>>
>> While you've managed to fool the system by wrapping your query into a
>> function you've violated the documented restrictions and so any breakage
>> is on you - not the system.
>>
>
> As an example of where this leads see:
>
> http://www.postgresql.org/message-id/7224.1452275...@sss.pgh.pa.us
>
> ​Thanks for the heads up. The good news is all machine access to the data
will be via functions and views so I can inline the constraint in the right
places. In other news, this sucks! I have no idea what it would take to
implement a more flexible constraint mechanism where these types of
dependencies can be expressed declaratively but it would be great if
someone w/ the know-how did. As is evident by the fact that I wasn't the
only one to not realize the rabbit hole I was heading down, it would be a
useful feature.
​

​As always thanks for setting me straight,

Dane

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