Michael, Thanks for your prompt reply In my environment those two parameters are enabled . Just give you brief of PG database envornment Version 9.2.4.1 Windows 7 Professional SP1 fsync=on full_page_writes=on wal_sync_method=open_datasync
My Customer is into building Cancer related systems and we ship Dell systems with our software image contains PG. Few of the customers are facing corruption issues say around 5% . We are in process of reproducing the issue , since there are different variables involved in reproducing issue like Dell HW, Software image versions, Application versions, write-cache settings RAID/Disk, RAID controllers with no backup and power failures etc , I am trying to understand is there possibility that PG can end up in having corrupted blocks due to system crash. 1)As I understand fsycn will write the block from memory to disk and block just after step 4) would have written disk assuming disk cache did not lie 2)and assume that full_page_writes=on has dumped the whole 8k block into WAL before it updates block i.e. after step 2) and before 3) 3) if crash happens after step4) , since there is no PageHeader data , after system restarts PG will complain that it is corrupted block or invalid header Please correct me if my understanding about play fsync and full_page_writes are correct ? if so , I see that there is possibility getting corruptions whenever PG extends a relation and crash happens just after step 4) I am not sure will the same applicable to existing page (not a new page) and how it handles if there is PageHeader available as part of full_page_writes, will same corruption can be happen or will PG can recover database as I am not sure recovery process can update the PageHeader from WAL records it wrote recptr as part of step 4) during the recovery process . -Sreekanth On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Michael Paquier <michael.paqu...@gmail.com> wrote: > (Please top-post that's annoying) > > On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Sreekanth Palluru <sree...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Can I generalize that, if after step 4) page ( new page or old page) > got > > written disk from buffer and crash happens between step 4) and 5) we > > always get > > block corruption issues with Postgres which can only be recovered by > setting > > zero_damaged_pages if we just have pg_dump backups and we are OK lose > data > > in the affected blocks? > > > > I am also looking at ways of reproducing the issue ? appreciate your > advice > > on it ? > > Postgres is designed to avoid such corruption problems if > full_page_writes and fsync are enabled, that's a base stone of its > reliability. If you can create a self-contained scenario able to > reproduce a failure, that could be treated as a Postgres bug, but you > are giving no evidence that this is the case. > -- > Michael > -- Regards Sreekanth
