I have never heard about NetFlix, but there is a small company in sweden which use 
almost the same scheme... You pay a monthly fee, fill in a form with your 
name+address, which movies you want and then they send them to you, i think you can 
have at most five movies at a time... and when you return them they send you other 
movies...  Does this mean they will go out of business now?? Or is the patent only 
valid when you get three dvd's at a time??

Oh, you pay 20USD per month for NetFlix? Maybe I should patent this:
"A cost/pricing model where you pay a non-variable monthly fee for one or more 
services, single or bundled together". Bye bye all flat-rate phone companies... bye 
bye NetFlix... bye bye cable tv... bye bye <IYF business>... ;-)

This is funny (and true): In sweden we had a group of bank robbers, which were called 
[whatever, i dont remember right now] in the newspapers... they copyrighted that name, 
and had the newspapers pay them for using it... who said crime does not pay?? :)

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From: "Jim C. Nasby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jan Wieck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> I don't see what's invalid about NetFlix patent. They came up with a
> brand new business process which no one had thought of up to that point.
> AFAIK, business processes are patentable IP.
> 
> Of course, it's certainly valid to argue that patents for many things
> now-a-days last too long. I don't know what class of patent a business
> process falls into, but I know many patents can easily last 17 years,
> clearly far too long for something like software.
> 
> On Sat, Jul 12, 2003 at 05:42:08PM -0400, Jan Wieck wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >[...]
> > >We of the FFII/Eurolinux alliance are fighting against this. 
> > >On September 1st. the European Parlament will decide on an directive
> > >draft from the JURI, which allow every idea to be patentable.
> > 
> > Oh - that sounds great ... a bunch of blind people talking about the 
> > color of a rainbow ...
> > 
> > I expect this to lead to the same stupidity of "patents" like NetFlix 
> > got lately. For those who don't know, NetFlix is a DVD rental company 
> > where you have an online managed list of movies you want to see. They 
> > send you the first 3 and whenever you send one back they send you the 
> > next via regular mail. The entire thing costs $20 a month, all postage 
> > paid, they provide the envilopes.
> > 
> > Now they have a "patent" on their system of rental subscription service. 
> > I wonder how much the guy in the patent office got paid for that. If he 
> > claims he got nothing, IMHO he simply claims he's less smart than a 
> > piece of toast ... for granting such a rubber band patent you have to 
> > get paid or you're as stupid as it gets.
> > 
> > 
> > Jan
> > 
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