(All as I understand it. If Marc or someone else who's involved wants to correct and clarify it'd be appreciated.)
This mailing list is already gatewayed to comp.databases.postgresql.general (that's where the spammers harvest your email address if you post to the list). This is nothing new. It has been that way for a while, with minimal problems on the mailing list side, with the exception of spammers harvesting email addresses. That's partly because it's primarily a one-way gateway - mailing list to newsgroup. Posts to the newsgroup are only propagated to the mailing list if the posting email address is a subscriber to the mailing list. But comp.databases.postgresql.general was never correctly created - it's a bogus newsgroup. As it's bogus, many newsservers won't carry it by default, though they'll often add it if users request it. The discussion in news.groups is about "doing the paperwork" for the already existing groups. There's interest in the newsgroups and providers are being asked to carry them. Formalising their creation will make that easier, as many newsservers will start carrying them automagically. There may be significant pressure to change the gateway to a two-way gateway, sending all usenet posts to the mailing list, as part of the "doing the paperwork" process. That may cause problems. On the other hand without the full two-way gateway there's a risk of the forum splitting into two parts, with mailing-list subscribers not seeing posts from usenet participants, fragmenting threads and making both the mailing list and the newsgroup less useful for all participants. Cheers, Steve On Fri, Nov 05, 2004 at 08:42:40AM -0800, Andy M wrote: > ALERT > > There is a person by the name of Mike Cox who's trying > to turn this mailing list into a Big-8 newsgroup. Many > of you know that this and most of the other postresql > mailing lists are already gated to Google Groups and a > small number of private news servers. If Mike Cox > succeeds, this list will be available as a newsgroup > on a great many more ISPs and NSPs, which could be a > good or a bad thing. For one, e-mail addresses on this > list will probably receive an increased volume of > spam. > > This person Mike wrote his own charter for this > mailing list, without asking for help from any of the > list subscribers. He went ahead and submitted the > proposal to the Usenet big-wigs without consulting the > mailing list first. The discussion is occurring in the > news.groups Usenet group by a bunch of Usenet techies. > Please get involved in the discussion and express your > views. By all means, vote, when the time comes. > > If you have no access to Usenet, you could follow the > discussion via Google Groups. Here are links to some > of the threads-- > > http://shorl.com/jevukofrolelo > http://shorl.com/hunofetaprona > http://shorl.com/boranobrimise > > Andy ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 9: the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not match
