On 12/3/2004 3:32 PM, Woodchuck Bill wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Joshua D. Drake") wrote in
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So the current state of affairs is that we have the gated, official pgsql.* newsgroups, and the comp.* stuff is not gated in either
direction?
Yes.
If that's the case, there should be a weekly/monthly reminder posting on the comp.* side set up, pointing out that these are not official groups and that real PostgreSQL questions are better asked somewhere else, if the intention is to reach real developers and get real help. I don't want to see people wasting a lot of time or getting confused because they found the wrong newsgroups first.
Why would the comp.* group be the *wrong* group? Just an additional resource. The proponent said that he would post weekly pointers about the pgsql.* hierarchy to the comp.* group, but expecting him to post something negative about the comp.* group is asking too much of him. This group is not meant to be a competing resource..it is just another channel, and another plug for the open-source community. Stop treating it like a bad thing.
You are insulting non-developer advanced pgsql.* users that would be using the comp.* group by inferring that only the developers are capable of answering questions. Do the Oracle developers, or MSsql developers participate in the respective comp.* groups for their products? Most probably not. Are those newsgroups extremely useful resources for users of those products? Very much so.
I didn't say that only developers are capable of that.
Since the mailing list to comp.databases.postgresql.general gating was stopped over a week ago, there has been zero communication on that newsgroup. I guess, that currently all of the developers and advanced users are either on the mailing list or using the pgsql.* groups.
And since there are no forums at all where you have direct access to Oracle or MSSql developers, this isn't exactly what I call a good example. Would they still be that usefull if like in our case all developers, experienced dba's and advanced users would be on oracle.* or microsoft.* groups already?
So how exactly do you think that big number of non-developer advanced PostgreSQL users will populate the comp.* groups? I don't see them there right now, and without them the comp.* groups are the *wrong* groups because you will not get answers to questions there.
Jan
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