Magnus Hagander pisze:
Being a fan or not of the language really isn't the issue, and nobody is
*ignoring* the language and platform. We all know "the others" have it.
And we want it. But the core team (or more importantly in this case, the
people doing backend development, which is partially a different thing)
aren't *java programmers* (at least not good ones, AFAIK), so they
really can't do much there. This is one of the reasons we have the
pl/java project separately - to make it possible to have people focus on
what they know and are good at.
I didn't wanted to say that all PostgreSQL core developers should start
working on pljava - I just wanted to ask whether we can ask for help
with C,JNI and PostgreSQL backend cause that is the problem.
Oh, and both DB2 and SQLServer has .Net support for stored procedures,
and we don't have that at all - so you could make an equally strong
argument that the core people should focus on that. Which has even less
chance of happening :-)
Good point, but from the other hand there are plenty of programing
languages but Java is the most popular :-) (source:
http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm).
I would like to know your opinion about pljava and its future and maybe
also there are people among PostgreSQL developers (core team or contrib
team) that are able to help with the development.
If you (or whomever picks up where the project is at now) have any
specific issues wrt the backend integration and such things, there are a
lot of people on the -hackers list that will be happy to help out. But
since most of us aren't Java people, you're probably going to have to
look elsewhere if you need help with the Java parts.
There is no problem with Java parts but rather connecting Java with
PostgreSQL backend which requires knowledge of C and JNI.
We did have one not too long ago. It showed that about 14% of our users
did, which puts it in fourth place, after perl, php and python. But not
far behind. See http://www.postgresql.org/community/survey.44
Count +1 for pljava, I didn't vote (unfortunately) :-(
So saying that it's one of the most important features is definitely
wrong. Saying it's important or very important is absolutely not wrong.
You are right, it's very important and I hope that all of us agree with
that statement (maybe I go too far saying "one of the most...") :-)
Regards,
Marek
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