On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 11:16 PM Kyotaro Horiguchi <horikyota....@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Sorry for the terrible typos..
>
> At Sat, 9 Apr 2022 18:03:01 +0530, Bharath Rupireddy <
> bharath.rupireddyforpostg...@gmail.com> wrote in
> > On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 1:40 AM SATYANARAYANA NARLAPURAM
> > <satyanarlapu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jan 2, 2022 at 11:56 PM Michael Paquier <mich...@paquier.xyz>
> wrote:
> > >> Are you referring to the pre-padding when creating a new partial
> > >> segment, aka when we write chunks of XLOG_BLCKSZ full of zeros until
> > >> the file is fully created?  What kind of error did you see?  I guess
> > >> that a write() with ENOSPC would be more likely, but you got a
> > >> different problem?
> > >
> > > I see two cases, 1/ when no space  is left on the device and 2/ when
> the process is taken down forcibly (a VM/container crash)
> >
> > Yeah, these cases can occur leaving uninitialized .partial files which
> > can be a problem for both pg_receivewal and pg_basebackup that uses
> > dir_open_for_write (CreateWalDirectoryMethod).
> >
> > >>   I don't disagree with improving such cases, but we
> > >> should not do things so as there is a risk of leaving behind an
> > >> infinite set of segments in case of repeated errors
> > >
> > > Do you see a problem with the proposed patch that leaves the files
> behind, at least in my testing I don't see any files left behind?
>
> I guess that Michael took this patch as creating a temp file with a
> name such like "tmp.n" every time finding an incomplete file.
>
> > With the proposed patch, it doesn't leave the unpadded .partial files.
> > Also, the v2 patch always removes a leftover .partial.temp file before
> > it creates a new one.
> >
> > >> , and partial
> > >> segments are already a kind of temporary file.
>
> I'm not sure this is true for pg_receivewal case.  The .partial file
> is not a temporary file but the current working file for the tool.
>

Correct. The idea is to make sure the file is fully allocated before
treating it as a current file.


>
> > > if the .partial file exists with not zero-padded up to the wal segment
> size (WalSegSz), then open_walfile fails with the below error. I have two
> options here, 1/ to continue padding the existing partial file and let it
> zero up to WalSegSz , 2/create a temp file as I did in the patch. I thought
> the latter is safe because it can handle corrupt cases as described below.
> Thoughts?
>
> I think this patch shouldn't involve pg_basebackup.  I agree to Cary
> that deleting the erroring file should be fine.
>
> We already "skipping" (complete = non-.partial) WAL files with a wrong
> size in FindStreamingStart so we can error-out with suggesting a hint.
>
> $ pg_receivewal -D xlog -p 5432 -h /tmp
> pg_receivewal: error: segment file "0000000100000022000000F5.partial" has
> incorrect size 8404992
> hint: You can continue after removing the file.
>

The idea here is to make pg_receivewal self sufficient and reduce
human/third party tool interaction. Ideal case is running pg_Receivewal as
a service for wal archiving.


>
> regards.
>
> --
> Kyotaro Horiguchi
> NTT Open Source Software Center
>

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